Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament: ROUND 2, Fight 1- illadelph12 vs. Blair Wind

old, around 87 if Im thinking right. Damn mans a surviror, Navy (merchant marine) two types of cancers, open heart surgery, is living THREE YEARS over his life expectancy from the doctors (they gave him three months) two strokes (one just today) and hes still kicking and decent for a man in his condition.....

anyways only one more question, what does "specially" made dagger mean? cut through anything? really sharp? and any scans on what the blasts can actually do since just the fact there made by thanos to me seems like weapons that would make Ironman be put to shame....

He sounds like a strong man. Sorry he's passing B-Dub. It's always hard to deal with man. My condolences homie Though hes' not gone quite yet).

As for the blasters, I'll provide some scans ASAP.

Well, I'll post my battle strategy.

It's fairly simple, actually.

We're in a desert, so it's pretty much a wide open arena. Monolith and KK take point and advance on your team with flight. Being as all of the Wendigos are mentally linked and share pain receptors, Monolith's heat blasts will disable them fairly easily. Even if they scatter and face Gamora and Vertigo, a well placed nerve strike will down them and affect the collective, and Vertigo's .

As for Crystal, Dupe Boy, and Powerhouse, they don't collectively have enough firepower to take Monolith down. He's a cosmic energy sponge, and em based attacks will feed him more power to redirect into attacks. The anti-gravity field of the Flight Ring negates Powerhouse's gravity well manipulation on both Monolith and KK, the ring can function in intense gravity as well as zero gravity conditions through force of will of the bearer, so it's not really an issue. With KK in his Legion flight suit, he can fly faster than he could without protection, so both he and Monolith can speedblitz, but KK would use it more for maneuvurability and positioning than bulldozing like Monolith would. Monolith batters your squad with wave after wave of concussive force blasts and KK zips around opening can after can of Super Karate flavored Whoop Ass until it's over.

[Normally I'm a lot more descriptive and articulate, but I'm busy at work and I've been making preparations for tonight's Valentine's Day episode with a female friend, so I'll settle for this for now.]

[Correcting typo from above]

and Vertigo's .

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disorientation powers will make them vulnerable to attack.

ok, thing is we are in the desert. That means LOTS of sand.

To begin with my Crystals start off with winds pushing forward, creating a very real much deadlier then normal sandstorm. The wind plus the tearing, burning and visibility blocking effect of the sand slow down your advance guard and take care of the ground troops buring them in sand.
Gamora gets ambushed by my Wendigos if she is still standing (doubtful, sand piles up loads in the desert), and slowed by a gravitational field.

Even with vertigo shouting, the winds being pushed towards you take care of her scream and if she does get to even take a shot before being buried in sand, the visibility given to her offers almost no chance of hitting anything.

Back to Monolith, since I cant directly take care of him through gravity, the sandstorm serves as a nice basis to do 2 things
1) Cover him in lots and lots of sand, in his mouth, nostrils, eyes, ears
2) Distract him completely.

What Powerhouse then does is concentrate with the Crystal assigned to him (since other members of my team are also fighting KK) on the sand around Monolith effectivly squeezing him to death with hardened sand being pushed together, then my Powerhouse flys straight at him at top speed, hitting him on his head knocking it off with a gravity powered superpunch.

KK is meanwhile fighting the only enemy that he cannot best: something non-physical. (And since DB knows KK, he knows not to face him in hand to hand combat and tells the others to hit him with long range attacks) The winds and sand are scratching at him, playing havok with his senses, and then random power bombs hit him from all around from my other powerhouses, lighting strikes him and oxygen snaps to flame in his face. With all these elemental attacks happening all his martial arts training will fail him, since one based soley on body can never hope to defeat the elements.

as to my DB prime? since the gaint tiger sand head is up, he snuck into the mouth and hides behind his lips (since going into his mouth, well he would have either gotten the damn lamp anyways and wished you away or not been worthy)

Interesting.

It's not going to work though.

Compressed sand is not going to damage Monolith, his mass, density, class 100 strength and consistency are to great for that to have any effect, and he is capable of surviving in the vacuum of space being sustained by cosmic energies for extended periods of time, so suffocation is not a worry. The sandstorm won't harm him, and with his mass and speed via the flight ring, he could bulldoze through the storm generated by Crystal and simply blast away at them or crush them under his mass (he's 30+ feet tall and weighs around 10 tons, and now he can travel at mach speeds). A sandstorm will not impede a 10 ton object travelling at mach speeds with it's own source of locomotion. Monolith will overwhelm them, easily, and crush them with his bare hands or blast them to death.

KK's wearing his Legion Issue Flight Suit (as I stated in my prep. Gotta love Brainiac 5), he has protection against the sands and heat (and radiation, the suits are designed to allow Legionnaires to fly though space without ill effects), and with his flight suit on, he can acheive mach levels of speed as well. It's only when he's unprotected that he's hindered to around 200 mph speeds by windsheer. He can advance on his advesaries and maneuver with ease, and he can dodge projectiles effortlessly.

The sandstorm will effect the Wendigo's as well as Gamora and Vertigo. We're in a desert, there's no cover. A sandstorm of the degree you are speaking of would help me. Gamora is agile and durable enough to handle herself in these conditions, Vertigo isn't, but it's really of no consequence, Wendigo can eat her with fava beans and a nice Cianti and your team is still outmatched. KK and Gamora do not need to see in order to attack, they both have super keen senses through training, and Gamora to a higher degree through Thanos's augmentations of her physical attributes. KK can hear sounds as faint as a heartbeat from a kilometer away, tracking 6 growling and mindless beasts in zero visibilty conditions in a very close proximity is not going to be an issue. In the cover of the sandstorm you've created he can pick off the Wendigo's easily with nerve strikes and they'll never see him coming. Couple that with the fact that all of the Wendigo's share pain receptors though a psionic link (as do your Duplicate Boys) and KK or Gamora could incapacitate the entire group of them with a well placed strike to a nerve cluster on any single member of the Wendigo collective and incapacitate the entire group.

Also, your team doens't have a way of defeating Monolith. Fire, Lightning, gravity wells, sandstorms, etc won't effect him, and if a Duplicate Boy is foolish enough to think of dropping Powerhouse's or Crystal's abilities to copy Monolith, in so doing he'd become base level Ahmet, and without being augmented by Havok or having any machinery on the battlefield to obtain Monolith levels of cosmic power, they'd basically be regular humans and easy marks.

I have you in a very deep tactical hole, B-Dub.

[On an aside, how is your Grandfather doing man?]

Eh living life.....Now Im the one with a fever......

Now Ive been reading on Monolith and from the bios Ive read it said unless he was with cosmicly powered individuals, he couldnt get to Monolith levels, and that the only reason he got that big when Havok attacked him is because Sinister and Apoc changed his DNA to read like Havoks.....

anyways the problem with your theories are these:

1) The sand storm would not effect my team, the Crystals make sure of them, having the winds go in foward and radiating out to encompass all but my team.

2) I dont care how much training KK and Gamora have, the sand in their nostrils, ears, eyes if they foolishly open them, you get my picture, will disorient them and burn at them. Their training might make them be good trackers, but within a sandstorm? I doubt it very highly

3) Lighting gets as hot as the surface of the sun right? How does KK deal with that type of heat?

4) While Monolith may be big, sand crushing him might not do the trick, but thats what a super fast, super strong gravity punch is for

5) Also while both LM and KK have anti gravity fields, they should have to contentrate harder to fly in any of my gravity fields, enough at least to attack them, and Gamora would be slow as hell.

6) How does Monolith get that fast and have reaction speed to match in just an hour??

7) Any "blasts" done by Monolith that hit the Powerhouses, makes my team more powerful

8) If you want heat, then I bring out the big guns....Pop Question: what made Aladdin fly on the carpet out of the cave like a bat outa hell?!?

LOTS AND LOTS of lava which has earth properties and Crystal takes out and burns the lot of you with it.

9) I also have the advantage, because my DB's know KK, and while his weakness is easily exploitable by my team (long range, almost omnidirectional attacks, meant to hurt, disorient, burn [sand tearing at his face], and kill him)

10) All in all, the only threat is Monlith and he gets taken care of, the rest of your team, while adept in a LOT of different things, are not suitable to beat my short and long range assualt team.

Nice.

But:

1) As I said previously, KK's wearing his flight suit, he has protection.

2) Monolith doesn't need superhuman reflexes to charge at full speed. I'm not trying to engage in mach speed martial arts like Monolith is Goku or somethin, he's a living guided missile. All he as to do is bumrush. No one on your team is exactly Spiderman either, and given his size, it's going to be hard for anyone on your team to dodge a 30 foot long by 15 foot wide object travelling at mach speeds. I, on the other hand, have KK and Gamora, both of which are in the upper echelon of agility, reflexes, and reaction speed.

3) Spouting out Lava all over the battlefield isn't exactly a good idea. More of your teammates are grounded than mine. All I have to do is have KK scoop up Gamora and all your Wendigos, Dupe Prime, and all your extra Crystals and Powerhouse's die along with Vertigo. Then you're down to Crystal and Powerhouse versus Monolith, KK, and Gamora, and get your ass seriously whooped.

Actually, do that. Spout Lava all over the battlefield. We both know how Wendigo's react to extreme heat. Make it a 3 on 2 match for me.

4) Your gravity fields are of no consequence. The flight rings negate gravitational fields and allow the bearer to propel themselves through the air by force of will on different planets with varying degrees of gravity and through space in a vacuum.

5) As I said in the draft thread, I drafted Living Monolith, not Living Pharoah. There are 4 stages of Ahmet Abdol:

A)There's the Living Pharaoh, pre-cosmic energy exposure from Havok, who has a cult.

B)There's the Living Monolith [post transformation into the Living Monolith] (30 feet tall, weighs 10-15 tons, can take optic blasts to the chin like it's nothing, trades blasts with Thor, tosses around boats) [The version I am using].

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C)There's the pre Living Planet stage of Living Monolith (50+ feet tall, weighs 100+ tons, cosmic glow, eventually unable to bear his own mass or stand up).

D) The Living Planet stage [final stage] When Thor transported him into space in the last stage and he completed his transformation into a full on living planet.

I'm using stage 2 Living Monolith, as I stated in the draft thread. Without Havok or a Machine on the battlefield, I'm not able to boost to living planet or 50 foot indestructible cosmic glow stages.

6) Dupe Boy knows KK, and he also know KK would kick his ass in a fight. Ranged attacks aren't a problem, KK's extremely agile and his combat awareness is of the highest caliber. He's dealt with speed blitzing Daxamites and rapid fire heat vision blasts at close range, he's dodged blast of heat vision ripping through space ships and he couldn't even see the origin point of the blast, a long range blast he can see and sense coming is no problem. Hell, he's deflected objects travelling at light speed with his fist.

7) Once D-Prime or Wendigo Prime are down (which they will be, because collectively your team can't handle Living Monolith with flight abilities solo), how exactly can you win?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
7) Any "blasts" done by Monolith that hit the Powerhouses, makes my team more powerful

how?

Originally posted by illadelph12
5) As I said in the draft thread, I drafted Living Monolith, not Living Pharoah. There are 4 stages of Ahmet Abdol:

A)There's the Living Pharaoh, pre-cosmic energy exposure from Havok, who has a cult.

B)There's the Living Monolith [post transformation into the Living Monolith] (30 feet tall, weighs 10-15 tons, can take optic blasts to the chin like it's nothing, trades blasts with Thor, tosses around boats) [The version I am using].

http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm56pg103iz.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm56pg113or.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uxm56pg127fa.jpg

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you know that the Thing is the strength limit and you're showing scans that say Monolith is stronger than Thor.... 😕

Originally posted by illadelph12
B)There's the Living Monolith [post transformation into the Living Monolith] (30 feet tall, weighs 10-15 tons, can take optic blasts to the chin like it's nothing, trades blasts with Thor, tosses around boats) [The version I am using].

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You know what, I just noticed something. Monolith can fly on his own. It's there in the scan...

Hmm...

I'm not worried. Thor flew up and got swatted by a Giant. Monolith is a class 100, he's simply a lot bigger than your average class 100. Thor even said "Bid's fair to rival that of the dreaded Destroyer, and mayhap Thanos", as in he could increase and surpass either of them ('Bid's fair'😉. Thor even said he underestimated Monolith, and as he normally does, he charged in head first.

If Monolith was 7 feet tall it wouldn't be a problem.

At 30 feet, it's like Thor being hit by a wall.

There's no mass cap.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Nice.

But:

1) As I said previously, KK's wearing his flight suit, he has protection.
But its still gonna disorient him, and the rest of the team kicks his ass

2) Monolith doesn't need superhuman reflexes to charge at full speed. I'm not trying to engage in mach speed martial arts like Monolith is Goku or somethin, he's a living guided missile. All he as to do is bumrush. No one on your team is exactly Spiderman either, and given his size, it's going to be hard for anyone on your team to dodge a 30 foot long by 15 foot wide object travelling at mach speeds. I, on the other hand, have KK and Gamora, both of which are in the upper echelon of agility, reflexes, and reaction speed.

So he's like a missle that never turns? Thats easy to dodge, something that big would not be able to move as fast as Crystal (reaction speed) or Powerhouse who can just use "bursts" of there respective flight pattern, and while the Sand may not stop him, it leaves him open to attacl

3) Spouting out Lava all over the battlefield isn't exactly a good idea. More of your teammates are grounded than mine. All I have to do is have KK scoop up Gamora and all your Wendigos, Dupe Prime, and all your extra Crystals and Powerhouse's die along with Vertigo. Then you're down to Crystal and Powerhouse versus Monolith, KK, and Gamora, and get your ass seriously whooped.

Actually, do that. Spout Lava all over the battlefield. We both know how Wendigo's react to extreme heat. Make it a 3 on 2 match for me.

who said it had to be spread out? Crystal can control it the same she controls earth and can just sent it your way. And if you let your team get picked up, they slow down and I spray ALL of you with it

4) Your gravity fields are of no consequence. The flight rings negate gravitational fields and allow the bearer to propel themselves through the air by force of will on different planets with varying degrees of gravity and through space in a vacuum.

by a force of a will, they have to adjust their will forcing them to adjust to the heavier gravity. Plus if they can protect against heat, why is it that I have a comic that states that Brainiac is protecting everyone from entering the planet, protecting them from the heat

6) Dupe Boy knows KK, and he also know KK would kick his ass in a fight. Ranged attacks aren't a problem, KK's extremely agile and his combat awareness is of the highest caliber. He's dealt with speed blitzing Daxamites and rapid fire heat vision blasts at close range, he's dodged blast of heat vision ripping through space ships and he couldn't even see the origin point of the blast, a long range blast he can see and sense coming is no problem. Hell, he's deflected objects travelling at light speed with his fist.

Fighting against winds with LOTS of sand is different then a spray of heat vision, the smal particles will hit him, how is he dogding that again? The Daxamites, (the scan you should) was a physcical being going at him, winds and lava are too different things

7) Once D-Prime or Wendigo Prime are down (which they will be, because collectively your team can't handle Living Monolith with flight abilities solo), how exactly can you win?

see my past strategies, collectively Crystal (lava, compressed sand) and Powerhouse pulling a gravity punch. After that, the rest of your team is easy picking with long range attacks, and the visibility makes it hard for you team to fight back. Gamora and Vertigo cannot dodge what they cannot beat, and KK would go down with a combination of power ball blasts, lighting, lava, sand in all his pores and openings.

to scoob, if his blasts is anything like Cyclops in concussive blasts, Powerhouse can absorb it a la Bishop style and redirect it out as power balls

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm not worried. Thor flew up and got swatted by a Giant. Monolith is a class 100, he's simply a lot bigger than your average class 100. Thor even said "Bid's fair to rival that of the dreaded Destroyer, and mayhap Thanos", as in he could increase and surpass either of them ('Bid's fair'😉. Thor even said he underestimated Monolith, and as he normally does, he charged in head first.

If Monolith was 7 feet tall it wouldn't be a problem.

At 30 feet, it's like Thor being hit by a wall.

There's no mass cap.

yea there was 😕 , no smaller than ant man, and no bigger than gaintman....I swear I read that somewhere

Originally posted by Blair Wind
yea there was 😕 , no smaller than ant man, and no bigger than gaintman....I swear I read that somewhere

Word?

Then no worries. Giant Man could grow to 100 feet and class 50.

Monolith is 30 feet and class 100.

It's all good.

your guys to damn big to be effective, he comes at me and my smaller more mobile team moves and attacks him long range, sand will distract him, and lava will burn him. Oxygen popping into fire on everyones face also distracts them and lets me attack all your team and win.

and Im gonna ask Dizzle, cuz i know for sure about the antman size and im pretty sure about gaintman but I could be wrong......Still, I think that the bigger he gets the stronger he gets and if he can hit Thor and get compared to Thanos he MIGHT just be tooooo strong.....

I'm not worried about it. He's a class 100, he just happens to be a stone giant. Thor flew in not knowing what he was getting himself into and a 30 foot tall, 10 ton stone giant swatted away a 6' 6", 640 lb flying blonde with a hammer. The rest is hyperbole. It's like me saying my ex-girlfriend punches like Mike Tyson or George Foreman because I wasn't expecting it to be so powerful.

As for the size limitation, I never read of one in any of the tournament threads, and if Giant Man is the max, Monolith fits because he's only 30' tall and G-Man can reach 100' tall.

Hehehe, mass cap... Eventually, we'll get this perfect. 😂

The strength cap refers to a straight bench press. Living Monolith's advantage when hitting people is that he builds up a massive amount of force because his arms are so big. He can't necessarily lift as much, but he is HUGE. Until I see him lifting something beyond the caps, he stays, and we chalk up big punches to inertia.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure the Cave of Wonders got flooded by molten gold, not lava. Just something to ponder.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm not worried. Thor flew up and got swatted by a Giant. Monolith is a class 100, he's simply a lot bigger than your average class 100. Thor even said "Bid's fair to rival that of the dreaded Destroyer, and mayhap Thanos", as in he could increase and surpass either of them ('Bid's fair'😉. Thor even said he underestimated Monolith, and as he normally does, he charged in head first.

If Monolith was 7 feet tall it wouldn't be a problem.

At 30 feet, it's like Thor being hit by a wall.

There's no mass cap.

See now thats why i wanted ymir or optimus . A gigantic mofo has the so much potential for ass kicking.....