Silverspider/Dizzles Team Tournament: Round 2, Fight 2- Grey Fox vs. Khellendros · Battlezone

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by leonidas
the shield CAN cut damn near anything and you don't NEED cl100 strength to do it. cap has shown to be able to throw it through all but the strongest metals, he just doesn't because the shield is so lethal. not sure how strong the ice shield is, but it would have to be DAMN strong for cap's shield, thrown with cl5 strength NOT to penetrate and kill . . .

I never said an ice shield would stop it. I said that when it misses, instead of rebounding off the wall, it's going to imbed itself in the rock wall since it's being thrown by a class 100 guy.

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Questions:

Wouldnt Dr. Lights ability to take anything made of light, even a gods lightning and control it( and your saying that he is taking all the light on the battlefield) just kill his team members right then and there? I mean the body runs on electrical impulses and if Dr. Light can take that and control it or shut it down.........

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Questions:
Wouldnt Dr. Lights ability to take anything made of light, even a gods lightning and control it( and your saying that he is taking all the light on the battlefield) just kill his team members right then and there? I mean the body runs on electrical impulses and if Dr. Light can take that and control it or shut it down.........

He's never shown that kind of finite control over anything that isn't actual light. I mean, even Deathstroke's eye has gotta be using the energy equivalent of a couple batteries.

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

He had enough control of Superboy's vision and Wonder Girl's lightning... and it probably doesn't require all that much finite control to simply absorb energies even if they are from people/organs... as shown by Superboy's vision. 😏 That and he currently has hard light contructs, can teleport himself and others, can seemingly become incorporeal, and apparently can "transubstantiate" matter.

Khellendros Sin in Pants

When did he become incorporeal?

grey fox KMC Magik Founder

Mwhahaha i can hear TOAA coming to take light away......

Regardless i have cap throw it instead of synch then , and then synch can help wail on jakita .

Oh yeah and Vin diesel owns NO ONE , his films suck and jackie chan was going to replace him in his latest film......

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by grey fox
Mwhahaha i can hear TOAA coming to take light away......

Doubtful. Despite X's best and persistant efforts, Dizzle hasn't banned him yet, likely because he knows I'm not trying to sneak anyone in under the radar, I just didn't know about his newest showings when I picked him.

Originally posted by grey fox
Regardless i have cap throw it instead of synch then , and then synch can help wail on jakita.

Fine, then Jakita swats the damn thing aside and Light fries them both.

grey fox KMC Magik Founder

Well good morning khell ......

Originally posted by Khellendros
Doubtful. Despite X's best and persistant efforts, Dizzle hasn't banned him yet, likely because he knows I'm not trying to sneak anyone in under the radar, I just didn't know about his newest showings when I picked him.
Fine, then Jakita swats the damn thing aside and Light fries them both.

Nope , my team can be very distracting . The original revelation should as earlier mentioned put them off kilter ......

But if not , then what. Well deathstroke has no problem against light. I'm guessing the guy told him most of what he can do so Ds can keep him safe . In fact with deathstrokes reflexes he dance around most of these suckers quite easily .

And as for jakita whacking the shield away. I doubt it. You seemed to have missed the 'Synch wail on jakita' there buddy......

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by grey fox
Well good morning khell ......

Top o' the mornin' to ya.

Originally posted by grey fox
Nope , my team can be very distracting . The original revelation should as earlier mentioned put them off kilter ......

I addressed this already. Light's team has absolutely no reason to believe the words of a man who wants to, at the very least, beat them up and at worst kill them.

Originally posted by grey fox
But if not , then what. Well deathstroke has no problem against light. I'm guessing the guy told him most of what he can do so Ds can keep him safe . In fact with deathstrokes reflexes he dance around most of these suckers quite easily .

Deathstroke has no problem against a human death ray? Right. Deathstroke has good reactions, but that won't save him from getting his feet frozen to the ground or boiled alive in his own skin by Frostbite. And dancing around is going to be a problem when he's half blind from haivng his bionic eye drained of power.

Originally posted by grey fox
And as for jakita whacking the shield away. I doubt it.

Why? She's the only one of them with the enhanced senses and super speed. Synch and Cap will be lucky if they can see her and Frosty, much less throw the shield at them.

Originally posted by grey fox
You seemed to have missed the 'Synch wail on jakita' there buddy......

No, read my last post again:

Originally posted by Khellendros
Fine, then Jakita swats the damn thing aside and Light fries them both.

Gonna be kinda hard to wail on Jakita when he's dead.

grey fox KMC Magik Founder

Time line

A. (2 seconds) They arrive , deathstroek gets a really evil smile , while cap considers trying to Americanise the cave. Synch is travellign through the shadows.....

B. (5 seconds) Ds spots light and starts the plan talking about his former life (IN DETAIL , you can't dissuade someone if they can give exact detail and you cannot say it's impossible le for DS i mean the guy figured everything out about THE BATMAN)

C ( 30-65 seconds) Khells team freak (for a few seconds ) just long enough for synch to hop out of the shadows and do a deadpool style sucker punch (SHORYUKEN lol) on Jakita.

D (67-70 seconds) the shield is flung straight into ( and out of ) frostbites neck .

And the rest (as earlier mentioend) goes accordingly .

Oh and if anyone wonders about the light thing. The shield has a finite power source and will eventually break under strain , light knows he's pretty damn squishy underneath that shield so will obviously try to keep it up as long as possible , so he wont be able to concentrate on doing any 'micro-laserign' or so on .....

Now when will that damn postman arrive with my Advent Children 😒

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by grey fox
A. (2 seconds) They arrive , deathstroek gets a really evil smile , while cap considers trying to Americanise the cave. Synch is travellign through the shadows...

Meanwhile, Grail is moving away with his team in a flanking maneuver. Jakita sees Synch coming and points him out to Frostbite.

Originally posted by grey fox
B. (5 seconds) Ds spots light and starts the plan talking about his former life (IN DETAIL , you can't dissuade someone if they can give exact detail and you cannot say it's impossible le for DS i mean the guy figured everything out about THE BATMAN)

Right, well, since no one on my team is an IDIOT, the second DS gives away his position by talking, Light distracts him by knocking out his bionic eye and the rest of his gadgets and then blasting him. You may want to let that particular tactic go. It's not really a BAD idea, it just wouldn't work.

Originally posted by grey fox
C ( 30-65 seconds) Khells team freak (for a few seconds ) just long enough for synch to hop out of the shadows and do a deadpool style sucker punch (SHORYUKEN lol) on Jakita.

Or rather, while your team is distracted by the sight of DS getting fried, Grail takes Synch out with a Chi blast.

Originally posted by grey fox
D (67-70 seconds) the shield is flung straight into ( and out of ) frostbites neck .

The shield is flung at Frostbite, but Jakita saves him and caves Cap's face in.

Originally posted by grey fox
Oh and if anyone wonders about the light thing. The shield has a finite power source and will eventually break under strain , light knows he's pretty damn squishy underneath that shield so will obviously try to keep it up as long as possible , so he wont be able to concentrate on doing any 'micro-laserign' or so on .....

The shield isn't eternal, but you have nothing to hammer it down with. He can outfly the slow flying Dragon Man, and your projectile weapons and grenades are rendered useless by Frostbite. Throwing the shield just leaves another character defenseless and your other Class 100 character can't fly. Light will be just fine.

Blair Wind The Iron Avenger

Originally posted by Khellendros
He's never shown that kind of finite control over anything that isn't actual light. I mean, even Deathstroke's eye has gotta be using the energy equivalent of a couple batteries.

Is heat vision "light"? and Lighting from a god??
I have the comic and X has already posted the scans about him being able to take both from inside SB and away from the Ares' lasso

Originally posted by Khellendros
Doubtful. Despite X's best and persistant efforts, Dizzle hasn't banned him yet, likely because he knows I'm not trying to sneak anyone in under the radar, I just didn't know about his newest showings when I picked him.

However your saying that he takes ALL the light from the surrounding area, using pin point lasers and frying people all at the same time??

Originally posted by Khellendros
your projectile weapons and grenades are rendered useless by Frostbite.

is Frostbite just continually sucking heat from everything in the area? Wouldnt he affect his team? and in the same case as Light, can he just take the other teams heat and leave them in a frozen corpse??? 😕

Scoobless sselboocS

Ok .... the light from heat vision and lightning is just a by product of the air being heated........ so how can Dr. Light control pure heat? or electricity?

Are there any scans that show that light can draw the power out of Slade's weapons? because i've never seen anything like that happen

And if Dr. Light drains all the light from the area..... how can he see?

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Is heat vision "light"? and Lighting from a [b]god??
I have the comic and X has already posted the scans about him being able to take both from inside SB and away from the Ares' lasso[/B]

According to a few people here, heat vision is just refocused light focused through SB's eyes. And lighting, no matter the sourse, is just electricity. It's arguable that, because of his ability to control radiation across the EM spectrum, he can manipulate electricity itself to some extent. The fact is, he did it.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
However your saying that he takes ALL the light from the surrounding area, using pin point lasers and frying people all at the same time??

No, not all at the same time. First, he absorbs all the light for a moment, then refocuses that light into a laser beam.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
is Frostbite just continually sucking heat from everything in the area? Wouldnt he affect his team? and in the same case as Light, can he just take the other teams heat and leave them in a frozen corpse??? 😕

No, not continually, that would risk overloading him. But, if he needs a quick charge of heat, a few tons of gold at room temperature would have quite a bit of heat to give.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Ok .... the light from heat vision and lightning is just a by product of the air being heated........ so how can Dr. Light control pure heat? or electricity?

Dude, you yourself said, in my thread with KVD, that his heat vision was just light refocused through his eyes. Are you going back on that now? And, I don't know how he controls electricity, but he can control radio signals and other radiation as well. It's just part of his powerset now.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Are there any scans that show that light can draw the power out of Slade's weapons? because i've never seen anything like that happen

Of course not, but if he can pull the voltage from a magic lasso, I don't see how pulling the charge from some powercells would be any more difficult.

Originally posted by Scoobless
And if Dr. Light drains all the light from the area..... how can he see?

Well, I only said visible light. Dr. Light could conceivably just shift infrared radiation in the room up to visible light just as it hits his eyes, allowing to see. And the light drain would only need to be momentary to give him enough light to refocus into a small but intense laser beam.

Scoobless sselboocS

Originally posted by Khellendros
Dude, you yourself said, in my thread with KVD, that his heat vision was just light refocused through his eyes. Are you going back on that now? And, I don't know how he controls electricity, but he can control radio signals and other radiation as well. It's just part of his powerset now.

No, that's my theory on it .... but everyone else calls it "heat" vision rather than "laser" vision

Originally posted by Khellendros
Of course not, but if he can pull the voltage from a magic lasso, I don't see how pulling the charge from some powercells would be any more difficult.

I suppose the laso constantly glows so the energy involved will probably be tied directly to light (insert magic based explanation here).... but regular electricity going through a circuit doesn't give off light

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
I suppose the laso constantly glows so the energy involved will probably be tied directly to light (insert magic based explanation here).... but regular electricity going through a circuit doesn't give off light

Not a TERRIBLE explanation, but Light can still wield the other energies on the EM spectrum that aren't light at all, and give off no light, visible or otherwise.

Scoobless sselboocS

😑 .............. Is his last name Lensherr?

Khellendros Sin in Pants

Originally posted by Scoobless
😑 .............. Is his last name Lensherr?

😂 No, because then he could create Magnetic fields on top of everything else.

Dizzle KMC Authority!!!

Light's ok for now. His teleporting is pretty non-combat effective, and his greatest asset is versatility, not raw power. Without a big source, I think IM could still outgun him. And since no sources big enough are ALLOWED, Light remains within the rules. He's versatile, but not godly powerful in the total destruction sense. Oh, and was it ever proved that Wondergirl's electricity isn't real electricity? It's SOURCE is magic, but is it lightning, or magic energy that LOOKS like lightning? Either way, strictly controlling energy wasn't banned either...

grey fox KMC Magik Founder

Ok then scratch my old plan.

Prep remains the same though , ds informs his team about Lights capabilities.

As soon as they get on the field the team disperses , using the 'caves darkness' as you call it to their advantage . Synch synches with frostbite he always has an understanding of how to use the powers he synches with and therefore undoes everything that frost bite has been trying to do .

Light can't do a full light drain on the entire cave as that would have negative effects on your team (deducting visibility even further )
Not only taking into consideration that my team may not be their.

Ds (Hiding in one of the many winding tunnels and caves that all link to the main cave) let's loose with a bullet and grenade barrage , two frag grenades and 10-20 bullets later and frostbyte is out . Your team having nether the reaction time or pre-cog to block those attacks.

Cap's shield suddenly impacts with the back of grail's head , ether A knocking him out or B killing him outright (due to decapitation) . What were your team doing at that point ? trying to free themselves from their ice encased legs . A second or two is all it takes.

A flashbang goes off , again no light draining because the flash takes a second possibly two , again no where near the reaction time a normal human has.

Jakita is suddenly rushed by dragonman , her lower body in encased full in ice now , synch can let off any heat in a similar manner to what khell described earlier. Now dragonman can ether beat her upper body to death or eat her . Ether way she's down .

Light's vision finally returns and i'm guessing he's pretty damn panicked , his team is dead/unconscious(ether way their considered knocked out) his powers near useless ( he ether makes everything pitch black for himself or can try to drain everything in his surrounding area
but since he's frozen to the spot that's really not going to help)

He is then frozen alive like a Popsicle , his shield useless in stopping his body heat draining straight out of him

and now i think i 'll celebrate with some music

Here we are, born to be kings
We're the princes of the universe
Here we belong, fighting to survive
In a world with the darkest powers

Hey...
And here we are
We're the princes of the universe
Here we belong, fighting for survival
We've come to be the rulers of your world

Oh!
I am immortal
I have inside me blood of kings (Yeah, yeah!)
I have no rival
No man can be my equal
Send me to the future of your world

Born to be kings, princes of the universe
Fighting and free, got your world in my hand
I'm here for your love and I'll make my stand
We were born to be princes of the universe
No man could understand
My power is in my own hand

Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh
People talk about you
People say you've had your day
I'm a man that will go far
Fly the moon and reach for the stars
With my sword and head held high
Got to pass the test first time, yeah
I know that people talk about me
I hear it every day
But I can prove you wrong 'cause I'm right first time
Yeah yeah

Alright, let's go, let's go
Haha!
Yeh...watch this man fly
Bring on the girls
Bababa!

Here we are (here we are)
Born to be kings, we're princes of the universe
Here will we belong

Born to be kings, princes of the universe
Fighting and free, got your world in my hand
I'm here for your love and I'll make my stand
We were born to be princes of the universe

I only watched highlander yesterday , and i already love it 😄