Originally posted by IKC
Were all indeed trained to fight melee? Can you provide proof?

Strange alien guy on Taris in the appartment building: Republic soldiers started getting trained in Melee fights because of energy shields.

Other people said about the same thing (Including Carth Onasi, who was a soldier and could know), I don't have the quotes at hand cause I just cleaned up my room and can't find the thing where I wrote most of them in... However it was said in many occasions during Kotor that much of the fighting was indeed Melee fighting.

Are we considering perhaps that the Mandalorians were behind cover of some kind?

So you are implying that the republic soldiers who were standing on one side of the bridge would run over the bridge that was clearly and known to them mined to get to the Mandelorians that were shooting at them, because the Mandelorians were behind cover. Why would they ever do that? They were on the other side of the bridge and could have found cover of their own. They were weaker then Mandelorians and unmotivated to run through the mine field.

The only reason could have been that it was there only chance of victory to run through the mine field and destroy the Mandelorians in Melee combat, something which they would suck in compared to the physically far more powerful and better trained Mandelorians. Unless you can think of another explanation that does not require them to be retards. Also saying there would be any cover besides the bridge is unsupported because the vision showed nothing of that sort. Just a bridge.

Oh, I don't know. Perhaps because he was a Jedi of reasonable strength and tactical skill.
Taken from SWkotor.com

"thers were quick to point to Malak's fierce courage and relentless fury at the forefront of every battle as the key to Republic victory."

Doesn't seem to say anything about his tactical skill... Instead the forefront of every battle.. . Again implying if not directly stating that Malak was a front line warrior at most of the battles the republic fought and that there were a lot of them. Otherwise it would not have turned the tide of the war. And reasonable tactical skill? If you would start Kotor you would see clearly in the initial star wars screen roller that Malak has no tactical skill he is a brute that wins because of numbers and heavy attacks. Not becuase he's the greater tactician.

I never said melee fights didn't happen. Surely, Jedi were front-line generals in the Clone Wars too. And?

Huge difference there, as the droids couldn't withstand blasterfire, with the exception of a few droids that were constantly bombed from the air. The clones also weren't trained in Melee fights and the droids sure as hell weren't. So I don't see how the two wars compare.

(Side note: Have these idiots ever heard of tanks?)

No, they did use battle droids however to destroy the opposition but I never even heard of something like tanks in those wars. And never saw them either... If they were around however we wouldn't have seen them anyways because the worlds the player visits are not really tank friendly, or not in a war...

Japanese samurai in the Tokugawa period were still required to carry their katanas even though it was a peaceful time.

So the Republic soldiers would carry around swords for ceremonial purposes, I find that hard to believe with the Mandelorians as they nothing of that sort and it was never before indicated. But its impossible to believe that the republic would have something like that. Unless you can prove they carried around swords for anything else then the giving explanation of course.

Hell, infantry now still carry combat knives. I didn't say that melee fights didn't happen, but your assumption that that was all that happened is an erroneous one. Using your logic, I could merely ask why the Republic soldiers still carried blasters.

Infantry of today isn't trained specifically for sword fighting... Also we see that when the Sith invade the Endar Spire that they used swords to do their fighting a gun is always superior to a sword in combat unless of course the gun can't do damage which is then the most logical reason for people to use swords. They were trained in it, they carried around pretty heavy combat swords that could not be used int he same way as a knife.

There is absolutely no logical explanation that could have those guys using swords except for the one stated in the game.

Swords were needed because it was the only way they could really kill each other once both sides had those energy shields. Therefor the Jedi would be fighting Melee fighters a lot.


Prove up. [/B]

I believe I just did, anyways its really up to you to prove that there is another reason then the one thats stated.