Originally posted by PVS
assumed, yes. thats exactly what he did.
that, combined with his revelation that it was the will of the force that brough them together.anakin did not use the force until the pod race. there is no way for a jedi to sense another's power when they are not using the force. thats why quigon had his blood tested. if he sensed the force in anakin there would have been no need to, would there?
no he did the blood test because he knew he was force sensitive and wanted to know how strong he is in the Force...because he was assuming (yes assuming) he could be the chosen one. Why was Qui-Gon so interested in Anakin's father? Couldn't it be possible that he heired it from his mother if you assume that Shmi was Force-sensitive too!
ANAKIN: I'm the only human who can do it.
(hint?)
QUI-GON: You must have Jedi reflexes if you race Pods.
(pretty self explanatory)
SHMI: No, Ani's right, there is no other way... I may not like it, but he can
help you... he was meant to help you.
(here is where quigon's naive side takes over and he is not only certain that anakin is force capable, but that he is meant for something great, and that it was the will of the force that he found him)
but its quite clear that it was at that dinner table that quigon learned of anakins abilities (vaguely of coarse) and it was all by assumption and no sensing of the force in anakin at all. thats fact
Originally posted by Cascador
Why was Qui-Gon so interested in Anakin's father? Couldn't it be possible that he heired it from his mother if you assume that Shmi was Force-sensitive too!
missed this question.
...perhaps he asked her with the hope that she would say that he had no father, which is what he wanted to hear.
Originally posted by Captain REX
Good for you. Either add to the conversation or stay silent.And PVS, how is Qui-Gon being naive? Perhaps Qui-Gon could sense it but didn't say anything due to the boy's age?
i said he was naive with regard to his unconditional trust in the prophecy, and his wish to find the chosen one.
as far as quigon not saying anything, remember that they met at wattos junk shop, where quigon then parted ways with him, never intending to see him again. if he was able to sense the force in anyone, regardless of whether or not they were using it, anakin should have been like a walking christmas tree.
Originally posted by Cascador
no the fact just says that because Qui-Gon was interested in Anakin's father, he knew that Shmi didn't have a hight midi-Chlorian count...that is what this was about in the beginning not how he found out how Anakin had Force Powers.
how is that fact? its not. its just your own guess.
he did NOT know shmi's midi count. thats ridiculous that you would just blurt that and call it fact.
Its not a guess its plain common sense. I do believe that Shmi was force sensitive to a point, but she wasnt unique. The whole point is that Anakin was concieved by the Force itself, Qui-Gon was able to sense the Force was strong with Anakin, he would have sensed it also with Shmi, its plain obvious. So of course he would inquire about the father cause he probably assumed thats why Anakin was so strong in the Force, the fact he didnt sense much in Shmi, then when he hears there's no father....... Something strange was going on
what is planely obvious is you have not been paying attention to the debate at all.
quigon met anakin and DID NOT KNOW he was force capable. he turned around and left wattos shop, leaving THE. CHOSEN. ONE. without even noticing. your 'common sense' is nothing but poor assumption.
he asks a simple question and everyone deducts that shmi has no midi count.
thats foolish.
now, im not saying she DID, because that would also be a foolish assumption.
all im saying is that clearly there was no answer to that.
Jedi can sense the force in persons...that's is open knowledge...they don't have to do some kind of trick to see if they are very force sensitive...Luke and Leia were just Babies...Jedi can sense emotions...Yoda sensed that in Luke in ESB...And you don't have to be very strong in the Force to guess things from a screen, yet the Council could sense that Anakin was very strong in the Force.
Qui-Gon didn't pay any attention to Anakin first in the shop...He didn't have any light glowing around him saying "I'm the chosen one you idiot, check me out!" So he couldn't have sensed anything in Anakin if he wasn't interested in him