Your version of heaven and hell

Started by debbiejo18 pages

How did Jesus describe hell?
With word pictures to prove a point of our suffering of guilt and wrong doing to others that will eat you up in this life now.

i dont wanna find out first hand.

How did Jesus describe hell? [/B]

But then again Jesus seems to be describing heaven as a Borg Cube, so I wonder about hell.

maybe its a rubiks cube?

My eyes are bleeding.........

Originally posted by debbiejo
My eyes are bleeding.........

It's the righteous red text of DAMNATION!!!! Clearly your eyes are telling you to repent.

Because everyone knows red is an evil color that makes things go faster.

maybe its a rubiks cube?

Perhaps, but that would be awfully 70-ish - though I guess it is possible God lacks fashion sense.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
too much data, man.

It's not too much data when you have him on your ignore list. 😆

Re: Re: Your version of heaven and hell

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Look round you and look really close.

I actually think I know what yu refering to. Can you see things during meditation as well?

Re: A Lie or A Fact?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://www.av1611.org/hell.html

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“And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments. . .” Luke 16:23

What you're about to read is hard to believe. . .

We're going to examine the place the Bible calls hell. We'll present documented evidence for a place called hell. Don't take what you're going to read lightly. If what you read is true — YOU COULD BE IN SERIOUS DANGER!

Several years ago a book was published, entitled Beyond Death's Door by Dr. Maurice Rawlings. Dr. Rawlings, a specialist in Internal Medicine and Cardiovascular Disease, resuscitated many people who had been clinically dead. Dr. Rawlings, a devout atheist, "considered all religion "hocus-pocus" and death nothing more than a painless extinction". But something happened in 1977 that brought a dramatic change in the life of Dr. Rawlings! He was resuscitating a man, terrified and screaming — descending down into the flames of hell:
"Each time he regained heartbeat and respiration, the patient screamed, "I am in hell!" He was terrified and pleaded with me to help him. I was scared to death. . . Then I noticed a genuinely alarmed look on his face. He had a terrified look worse than the expression seen in death! This patient had a grotesque grimace expressing sheer horror! His pupils were dilated, and he was perspiring and trembling — he looked as if his hair was "on end."
Then still another strange thing happened. He said,"Don't you understand? I am in hell. . . Don't let me go back to hell!" . . .the man was serious, and it finally occurred to me that he was indeed in trouble. He was in a panic like I had never seen before."
(Maurice Rawlings, Beyond Death's Door,(Thomas Nelson Inc., 1979) p. 3).
Dr. Rawlings said, no one, who could have heard his screams and saw the look of terror on his face could doubt for a single minute that he was actually in a place called hell!

The Bible continually warns of a place called hell. There are over 162 references in the New Testament alone which warns of hell. And over 70 of these references were uttered by the Lord Jesus Christ!

In Luke 16, Jesus Christ gives a frightening picture of hell:

22 . . . the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. (Luke 16:22-28)
HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE

The man in Luke 16:24 cries: ". . .I am tormented in this FLAME."

In Matthew 13:42, Jesus says: "And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth."

In Matthew 25:41, Jesus says: "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting FIRE,. . ."

Revelation 20:15 says, " And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE."

THE BIBLE GIVES THE LOCATION OF HELL

When Jesus Christ died on the cross, He descended into hell. In Acts 2, Peter is speaking, verse 31, " . . . seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in HELL"

When Jesus Christ died His soul went into hell.

And in Matthew 12:40, Jesus Christ says:

"For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly: so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the HEART OF THE EARTH. "
The Bible is clear — Hell is inside the earth!

Ephesians 4:9, says of Jesus: "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH."

On page 85 of Beyond Death’s Door, Dr. Rawlings writes patients who described hell said, ". . . this place seems to be UNDERGROUND or WITHIN THE EARTH in some way."

Scientist and Bible teacher, Henry Morris also agrees the Bible plainly teaches that hell is in this earth:

"So far as we can tell from Scripture, the present hell, is somewhere in the heart of the earth itself. It is also called 'the pit' (Isa. 14:9, 15: Ezek. 32:18-21) and 'the abyss' (Rev. 9:2). . .
The writers certainly themselves believed hell to be real and geographically 'beneath' the earth's surface. . .
To say this is not scientific is to assume science knows much more about the earth's interior than is actually the case. The great 'pit' [hell] would only need to be about 100 miles or less in diameter to contain, with much room to spare, all the forty billion or so people who have ever lived, assuming their 'spiritual' bodies are the same size as their physical bodies."
(Henry M. Morris, The Bible Has the Answer, p. 220)
The Birmingham News, April 10, 1987 had an article entitled "Earth's Center Hotter Than Sun's Surface, Scientists Say". The article stated that scientists have recently discovered, "THE EARTH'S INNER CORE HAS A TEMPERATURE OF OVER 12,000 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT!"

Have you seen pictures of a volcano erupting, spewing a lake of fire from inside the earth — consuming everything within miles just from the heat? When Mount St. Helens erupted in May 18, 1980, it was described by reporters, "when HELL surfaced upon the earth." The book, Volcanoes, Earth's Awakening (p.91) describes an erupting volcano as "descent into HELL".

Thousands of years ago, the Bible described a place called hell in the heart of the earth that matches exactly what science is discovering.

YES! THERE IS A PLACE CALLED HELL!

In Numbers 16, the Bible gives the account of people falling into hell alive!

"And THE EARTH OPENED HER MOUTH, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive INTO THE PIT, and the EARTH CLOSED UPON THEM:" Numbers 16:32-33
Caspar Peucer, a famous fourteenth century astronomer and physician, who also researched and documented the volcanoe eruptions at Heklafell wrote some very frightening information in his research findings. Peucer, claims (as others) that "fearful howlings, weeping and gnashing of teeth" could be heard "for many miles. . ." as these volcanoes erupted:

"Out of the bottomless abyss of Heklafell, or rather out of Hell itself, rise melancholy cries and loud wailings, so that these can be heard for many miles around. . . there may be heard in the mountain fearful howlings, weeping and gnashing of teeth."
(Haraldur Sigurdsson, Melting the Earth, The History of Ideas on Volcanic Eruptions, p. 73)
And Caspar Peucer is not alone. There are others who believe they have heard "cries and screaming" coming from volcanoes. Most have tried to ignore the obvious. Some simply explain the "sounds of hell" to some rational meaning. But they are there. . .
"The fearsome noises that issued from some of their volcanoes were certainly thought to be the screams of tormented souls in the fires of hell below".
(Haraldur Sigurdsson, Melting the Earth, The History of Ideas on Volcanic Eruptions, p. 73)
Inside this earth, this very moment, there are millions of lost, tormented souls — burning, weeping, wailing — without any hope whatsoever!

In Mark 9:46, Jesus Christ says about hell: "Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Jesus said explicitly — THEIR worm — not a worm, or the worm — but THEIR worm. The Bible teaches that Christians will one day have a body like the Lord Jesus Christ. Could it be, as some Bible students teach — that men and women in hell take on the form of their father, Satan (John 8:44)? In Revelation 12:3, Satan is described as a red dragon. Could Jesus Christ be referring to the body lost men and women will have for eternity?

The earth’s crust on land is normally 50 miles thick. You’d have to go down 50 miles before the edge of the fire. But in parts of the ocean floor, the earth’s crust is less than a mile thick.

Scientists recently discovered cracks on the ocean floor where fire was leaking out. Do you know what they found around these fire-breathing vents in the crust? Eight-foot long worms, found no other place in the world! The book, The Deep Sea, by Joseph Wallace (p.39), reads, "Perhaps the strangest of ocean creatures recently discovered are Riftia, the giant tube WORMS. Measuring up to 8 feet in length, the worms are ONLY FOUND NEAR DEEP SEA VENTS."

And Jesus Christ said, "Where THEIR WORM dieth not, and the fire is not quenched."

Have you read Isaiah 66 where the Lord Jesus Christ is quoting Mark 9:46?
Look at the context and time period of Isaiah 66:22-24:
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Hey JIA nice to see you again 🙂

I have alot of questions to ask , so be ready 😄

😆 JIA so ****in dumb.

THE BIBLE IS BULLSHIT.

It's as real as magic. Jesus is a cock, he didn't even write the Bible, Luke, John, Matthew and Mark did. In fact, that's not even their real names, nor is Jesus, Peter, Andrew, etc.

How would you belive in Bible if you dont belive even in God ??

Originally posted by lord xyz
😆 JIA so ****in dumb.

THE BIBLE IS BULLSHIT.

It's as real as magic. Jesus is a cock, he didn't even write the Bible, Luke, John, Matthew and Mark did. In fact, that's not even their real names, nor is Jesus, Peter, Andrew, etc.

Well that's a little harsh. The bible does have some good allegories and life lessons in it. And Jesus did have some good things to say, it is just that MAN has changed it....Blame men, not what Jesus was trying to say.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
It's the righteous red text of DAMNATION!!!! Clearly your eyes are telling you to repent.

Because everyone knows red is an evil color that makes things go faster.

It makes things go faster???? 😕

Like a sports car, or perfused bleeding, or possibly reading quickly through someones posts??

Originally posted by debbiejo
It makes things go faster???? 😕

Like a sports car, or perfused bleeding, or possibly reading quickly through someones posts??

All of those things I am sure.

Originally posted by Fatima
How would you belive in Bible if you dont belive even in God ??

good question....lets see if they answer.

Heaven and hell clearly cannot exist there is no place on earth that matches with the descriptions and beliefs of what people describe them to be,

And who has the right to decide weather a person deserves to go to heaven or hell?
we all do bad things in life if intentionally or not!
therefore that would mean we all go to "hell"

and if god is not prepared to show me he exists
why should i have the end of my life decided for me, when through out my existence i have made my own decisions

clapping lets give a hand to sammii. 👆

Originally posted by lord xyz
😆 JIA so ****in dumb.

THE BIBLE IS BULLSHIT.

It's as real as magic. Jesus is a cock, he didn't even write the Bible, Luke, John, Matthew and Mark did. In fact, that's not even their real names, nor is Jesus, Peter, Andrew, etc.

Calm yourself down.

You are in the same line, if not worse as Chick and his cartoons and all those fundamentalist Allatoyas and Preists.
''Jesus is a cock'' yeah that is a really constructive evaluation.

This alone gives JesusIsAlive more credibility than you. Way to go!

Your posts are general bullshit, so this shouldn't be a suprise really.

Originally posted by Fatima
Hey JIA nice to see you again 🙂

I have alot of questions to ask , so be ready 😄

Christian vs. Muslim, this ought to be good.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Calm yourself down.

You are in the same line, if not worse as Chick and his cartoons and all those fundamentalist Allatoyas and Preists.
''Jesus is a cock'' yeah that is a really constructive evaluation.

This alone gives JesusIsAlive more credibility than you. Way to go!

Your posts are general bullshit, so this shouldn't be a suprise really.

Says the person who sees Islam as the worst religion without any evidence of coming to that conclusion except misunderstandings and lies, who also sees Atheism as a religion parellel to Theism.

Saying my posts are bullshit is flaming believe it or not, and my "Jesus is a cock" was an expression of my beliefs, but if someone says "God bless you" or "Charles Darwin didn't believe evolution to be a science" which are practically the same insults are just fine aren't they?

No Virgins ? 🙁