Black Adam,Darkseid,Thanos vs Odin,Rune King Thor

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Black Adams a non factor. He would be disaptched swiftly. Thanos and Darkseid aint beating Odin and RKT.

Thanos is faily non factor as well, besides his durability he can't stand up to that much power.

There's a post there of Odin himself saying Darkseid was too powerful. Darkseid himself, not avatars, is beyong pantheon gods. I just showed you, how are you dismissing it?
Thread creator said this isn't 'jobbersied' or whatever crap, and at optimum power, Darkseid is above them.

Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos is faily non factor as well, besides his durability he can't stand up to that much power.

There's a post there of Odin himself saying Darkseid was too powerful. Darkseid himself, not avatars, is beyong pantheon gods. I just showed you, how are you dismissing it?
They said this isn't 'jobbersied' or whatever crap, and at optimum power, Darkseid is above them.

Thats the opinions of the Dc pantheons. Marvels pantheon gods appear alot more prominent in Marvels cosmology.

Youre wrongly making the assumption that the two companies skyfathers automatically equate to each other. You showed me nothing of relevance.

However if this is the so called Pre Crisis DS before all of this avatar rubbish then yes his side does indeed win

Originally posted by Juntai
Thanos is faily non factor as well, besides his durability he can't stand up to that much power.

❌ Not true at all. Thanos regularly stands up to beings leagues above him on the hierarchy, be it Tyrant, Galactus or Maker.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Thats the opinions of the Dc pantheons. Marvels pantheon gods appear alot more prominent in Marvels cosmology.

Youre wrongly making the assumption that the two companies skyfathers automatically equate to each other. You showed me nothing of relevance.

However if this is the so called Pre Crisis DS before all of this avatar rubbish then yes his side does indeed win

A single Omega Beam kills gods and adds their power to his own. It only shows ONE but describes as worlds.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbc33955jpgorig7zh.jpg

This is just cool and further explains him killing off entire pantheons.
http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jkfw03185mr.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
A lot of Darkseids feats are actually Post Crisis, most people just ignore that fact because many of his loses are also Post Crisis. However as I showed, his only true loss is to Superman recently, and even that is questionable. When it all stacks up, you have a nearly undefeatable omnipotent being who slays gods who can create guys that can beat the strongest guys in the universe.

A single Omega Beam kills gods and adds their power to his own. It only shows ONE but describes as worlds.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbc33955jpgorig7zh.jpg

I hear ya hes a cool character who has been written poorly as of recent times, however youre description of whats going on in this scan is extrapolation. It shows him taking a character out with a beam of energy with the captions saying he basically went around destroying gods and cultures in an effort to increase his power. Where did you get that with a single omega beam he can kill a god and as a result acquire their power? 😕 Not stated or shown conclusively. ❌

Also was that Post crisis? If that rampage closely followed him killing his mother i cant see how that is the case.

Still not convinced?
Pantheon God, Ares, powered by the Godwave, stopped cold and held in place by Darkseid who holds him by bending time and space around him, so he could finish talking.
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9aa2085jpgorig3ov.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
Still not convinced?
Pantheon God, Ares, powered by the Godwave, stopped cold and held in place by Darkseid who holds him by bending time and space around him, so he could finish talking.
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9aa2085jpgorig3ov.jpg

Youre getting me wrong. Its not about me not being convinced i was just disputing your interpretation of the evidence you presented. You were extrapolating. That is an aside from the actual topic of this thread. Ive already said if the threadmaker by saying non jobberseid DS is referring to the DS prior to all of this avatar business then his team more than likely wins. However now you've highlighted the fact that his most recent defeat was above board im not so sure.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I hear ya hes a cool character who has been written poorly as of recent times, however youre description of whats going on in this scan is extrapolation. It shows him taking a character out with a beam of energy with the captions saying he basically went around destroying gods and cultures in an effort to increase his power. Where did you get that with a single omega beam he can kill a god and as a result acquire their power? 😕 Not stated or shown conclusively. ❌

Also was that Post crisis? If that rampage closely followed him killing his mother i cant see how that is the case.

Also, as shown previously in other threads and with scans, Darkseid still remembers, and was unaffected by the Crisis rewrite. Many have tried to dispute it by claiming his losses as evidence of power loss, however they've proven to be avatars and Desaad disguised in retcons. Besides, you can't really argue with whats written in the comic itself. If it stated he remembers the crisis and avoided the rewrite...he did it. Simple as that.

Originally posted by Juntai
Still not convinced?
Pantheon God, Ares, powered by the Godwave, stopped cold and held in place by Darkseid who holds him by bending time and space around him, so he could finish talking.
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9aa2085jpgorig3ov.jpg

That scans from Genesis right? Where in that scan does it show that it was DS' power what did that as opposed to his machinery which was tapping into the power of the source? Considering Ares was tapping into the Godwave himself that seems far more the likely scenario given Darkseid recent showings. Either way the scene is open to interpretation and as such nothing conclusive can be drawn from it and treated as fact by either side.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youre getting me wrong. Its not about me not being convinced i was just disputing your interpretation of the evidence you presented. You were extrapolating. That is an aside from the actual topic of this thread. Ive already said if the threadmaker by saying non jobberseid DS is referring to the DS prior to all of this avatar business then his team more than likely wins. However now you've highlighted the fact that his most recent defeat was above board im not so sure.

Originally posted by Juntai
Written post crisis, but takes place far in the past, and mentions events that happened pre-Crisis, however, history was melded into current "DCU" timeline after the Crisis. Making all of those feats still applicable post crisis.

Also, as shown previously in other threads and with scans, Darkseid still remembers, and was unaffected by the Crisis rewrite. Many have tried to dispute it by claiming his losses as evidence of power loss, however they've proven to be avatars and Desaad disguised in retcons. Besides, you can't really argue with whats written in the comic itself. If it stated he remembers the crisis and avoided the rewrite...he did it. Simple as that.

I dont quite see how this is entirely relevant to my previous post. I wasnt disputing any of this stuff you've replied with. My point was on your extrapolation something you've failed to acknowledge in this reply.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I dont quite see how this is entirely relevant to my previous post. I wasnt disputing any of this stuff you've replied with. My point was on your extrapolation something you've failed to acknowledge in this reply.

And to answer your question, it describes him killing off pantheons and adding their power to his own, and looking at the pictures, he flies up and omega beams the guy once. It's just one example, but surely shows he did it with Omega Beams.
Again it may not always be this way, it's just the examples given.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
❌ Not true at all. Thanos regularly stands up to beings leagues above him on the hierarchy, be it Tyrant, Galactus or Maker.

Originally posted by Juntai
:/ You asked if it was pre crisis or post crisis. I filled in the blanks for you. Don't act like I'm dodging questions.

Well you kind of gave that impression by completely ignoring the main point of my previous post in your reply.

Originally posted by Juntai
And to answer your question, it describes him killing off pantheons and adding their power to his own, and looking at the pictures, he flies up and omega beams the guy once. It's just one example, but surely shows he did it with Omega Beams.
Again it may not always be this way, it's just the examples given.

It doesnt mention or depict how he acquires their power specifcally, it says he destroys them in an effort to acquire their power. It doesnt say he uses his omega beams to destroy them while at the same time absorbing their power. The scene shows Darkseid destroying people. You said : "A single Omega Beam kills gods and adds their power to his own."" See the extrapolation? Cool.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Black Adams a non factor. He would be disaptched swiftly. Thanos and Darkseid aint beating Odin and RKT.

Are you talking about Pre-Crisis Darkseid, wasn't he equal to Full powered Galactus. How can Odin AND RKT win against Darkseid.
Even combined, thay are no match for suh power as DArkseid and Full powered Galactus.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Are you talking about Pre-Crisis Darkseid, wasn't he equal to Full powered Galactus. How can Odin AND RKT win against Darkseid.
Even combined, thay are no match for suh power as DArkseid and Full powered Galactus.

Read the subsequent posts and you'll see my stance. 😉

if you compare dc ares to marvel ares marvel ares stalemated hercules while DC ares went on almost destroy the world sept wonderwomen had to convince him to stop she did not defeat him in battle but had to convince him to stop also in another encounter ares defeated all the heroes which marvel ares wouldnt have a chance at and you all know that since he cant even beat hercules just imagine how powerful the pantheon sky father is of the DC pantheons if his underlings are strong enough to take over the world also Circe another underling god caused all the gods to fight each other almost destroying everything in war of the gods is there proof DC pantheons are better then MU pantheons i just gave it Darkseid scares just one pantheon in fact that one pantheon said that all of them combined wouldnt stop Darkseid and thus i believe Darkseid is enough to take on one sky father but not two i guess but then again maybe he can but i wont say so

^^That is one long-ass sentence

Originally posted by Juntai
Still not convinced?
Pantheon God, Ares, powered by the Godwave, stopped cold and held in place by Darkseid who holds him by bending time and space around him, so he could finish talking.
http://img353.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9aa2085jpgorig3ov.jpg

What book is this from Juntai?

Originally posted by Juntai
A lot of Darkseids feats are actually Post Crisis, most people just ignore that fact because many of his loses are also Post Crisis. However as I showed, his only true loss is to Superman recently, and even that is questionable. When it all stacks up, you have a nearly undefeatable omnipotent being who slays gods who can create guys that can beat the strongest guys in the universe.

A single Omega Beam kills gods and adds their power to his own. It only shows ONE but describes as worlds.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbc33955jpgorig7zh.jpg

This is just cool and further explains him killing off entire pantheons.
http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jkfw03185mr.jpg

what comic are these from tell us we wanna know!

I'd agree that Black Adam isn't really doing anything in this fight, Thanos could at least stand up to Odin as he did in Asgard (still, imo, Odin would eventually win). That leaves RKT and Darkseid. From what I've heard (and I could be wrong) RKT is like Odin and a half, on the other side Darkseid has killed entire pantheons of gods before (is it true that the universe needs him to continue to exist?). I'd have to go with DC on this one.