Originally posted by MiderEnnis is a punisher fanboy, but a good deal of those kills are possible...
a punisher fanboy would think that punsher could defeat the universe thats a real fanboy right there
Originally posted by EtriganDoesn't mean that marv would win more times than cap...marv would get extremely lucky and and shot cap in the head...that is like 1/50 marv would win...
That's true.But it doesn't mean Marv could ever beat Cap.
Originally posted by Mider
what amount of kills were possible? Killing apocalypse with a nuke or juggernaut? Not happening and sinister i dont know if he has a weakness to nukes he has been obliterated to nothing but bones and still lives.
Asking if marv could beat captain america is like asking if Colen powell could beat captain america
it just, doesnt make sense
Originally posted by MiderThere was more than just a nuke in that book...i was talkin about the book as a whole...
what amount of kills were possible? Killing apocalypse with a nuke or juggernaut? Not happening and sinister i dont know if he has a weakness to nukes he has been obliterated to nothing but bones and still lives.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555i agree...mider loves marv, i can't blame him he is cool, but he is not in these guys league...
Asking if marv could beat captain america is like asking if Colen powell could beat captain americait just, doesnt make sense
Originally posted by Black Adamkingpin, cap, wolvie, spiderman, venom (lets just say spidersense is not always failsafe), cyc, daredevil, hulk (though i do think that banner could have turned into hulk and the bullet would have came out, some say no)...i might be forgeting some...
Which ones were possible again?agreed.
Originally posted by jgiantSpider-sense worked fine in that book. Frank caught Spidey while he was fighting Venom in the sewers. Spidey felt the tingle and tried to get Venom to stop fighting. Venom didn't. Frank dropped some electric thing in the water. Fried 'em both. To Spidey's credit, he was still alive and Frank had to bust a cap in his dome. Not a very honorable way to take somebody out, but effective nonetheless. Smart kill.
kingpin, cap, wolvie, spiderman, venom (lets just say spidersense is not always failsafe)
Anyway, Cap beats Marv up somethin' fierce.
Originally posted by brainchild81Thank you, one of the few who still respects frank...
Spider-sense worked fine in that book. Frank caught Spidey while he was fighting Venom in the sewers. Spidey felt the tingle and tried to get Venom to stop fighting. Venom didn't. Frank dropped some electric thing in the water. Fried 'em both. To Spidey's credit, he was still alive and Frank had to bust a cap in his dome. Not a very honorable way to take somebody out, but effective nonetheless. Smart kill.Anyway, Cap beats Marv up somethin' fierce.
Originally posted by jgiant
kingpin, cap, wolvie, spiderman, venom (lets just say spidersense is not always failsafe), cyc, daredevil, hulk (though i do think that banner could have turned into hulk and the bullet would have came out, some say no)...i might be forgeting some...
It's not like Spider-man has never been electrocuted before by electro. though the water must have amped it's power. seems possible.
Does electricity even work on symbiotes?
Cap could be shot. It was how he was shot in the first place that was stupid. Yes cap turn your back on the psycho that just took out 223423421341 supers.
Hulk? I heard He could just turn back into hulk and the bullet would pop out . read it on another board so I really can't be sure if it's true or not.
Wolverine is another one that would be possible. Being electrocuted to death until he melted. It just the way Frank got him in the first place that didn't make sense
apparently Wolverine can get drunk. And apparently
Adamantuim>>>>>>>Kevlar vest
Speaking of wolvy wouldn't he have hunted down frank personally after he murdered his friends? Drowning your sorrows in beer which he shouldn't get drunk from in the first place doesn't sound like him.
DD? Well a knife to the chest would seem a logical way for someone with human durability to die. Until you forgot that DD would have know he had a knife in his hand and what he was going to do with it before he did it.
Kingpin? Yeah I give you that one.
cyce? I'll give you that.
Doom? no just no. The little caption say two broken ribs later. A punch from doom on someone who is intruding into his home will not break your ribs. It will rip your spine out.
Originally posted by Black AdamCap got schooled when frank and him first meat...i think pun can win...cap let his gaurd down is that so hard to believe he is human and can make mistakes...and in regaurd to spiderman...
It's not like Spider-man has never been electrocuted before by electro. though the water must have amped it's power. seems possible.Does electricity even work on symbiotes?
Cap could be shot. It was how he was shot in the first place that was stupid. Yes cap turn your back on the psycho that just took out 223423421341 supers.
Hulk? I heard He could just turn back into hulk and the bullet would pop out . read it on another board so I really can't be sure if it's true or not.
Wolverine is another one that would be possible. Being electrocuted to death until he melted. It just the way Frank got him in the first place that didn't make sense
apparently Wolverine can get drunk. And apparently
Adamantuim>>>>>>>Kevlar vest
Speaking of wolvy wouldn't he have hunted down frank personally after he murdered his friends? Drowning your sorrows in beer which he shouldn't get drunk from in the first place doesn't sound like him.
DD? Well a knife to the chest would seem a logical way for someone with human durability to die. Until you forgot that DD would have know he had a knife in his hand and what he was going to do with it before he did it.
Kingpin? Yeah I give you that one.
cyce? I'll give you that.
Doom? no just no. The little caption say two broken ribs later. A punch from doom on someone who is intruding into his home will not break your ribs. It will rip your spine out.
Originally posted by brainchild81and dd, what could he have done to stop frank if they are fighting...and doom never said that pun can win...but that senerio works if doom underestimates frank...
Spider-sense worked fine in that book. Frank caught Spidey while he was fighting Venom in the sewers. Spidey felt the tingle and tried to get Venom to stop fighting. Venom didn't. Frank dropped some electric thing in the water. Fried 'em both. To Spidey's credit, he was still alive and Frank had to bust a cap in his dome. Not a very honorable way to take somebody out, but effective nonetheless. Smart kill.Anyway, Cap beats Marv up somethin' fierce.
Originally posted by jgiant
Cap got schooled when frank and him first meat...i think pun can win...cap let his gaurd down is that so hard to believe he is human and can make mistakes...and in regaurd to spiderman... and dd, what could he have done to stop frank if they are fighting...and doom never said that pun can win...but that senerio works if doom underestimates frank...
What would DD do? how about get out of the way or not approach him in the first place . Frank was lying on the ground. He wasn't going anywhere. and DD would know what he was going to do. Sticking a big knife in your chest would be something he would pick up
The doom scenario? He wouldn't have time to be underestimated since he would have had his spine punched out long before that.
You guys got a little sidetracked there with the Punisher. This is a kind of weird thread since the comics are so different. Sin City is grounded in more real life (More than Marvel and DC anyway) which is why it can be cool and refreshing. Kevin, Wallace and Mijo are the most dangerous characters in that book (Marv is good at taking out a LOT of nobodies but can't really take anyone quick and skilled I think cough* Kevin Cough*) and they are on barely on level with people like Elektra, and the Punisher.
Whether you want to admit it or not Punisher would be right at home in Sin City and might be one of the deadliest but he's still on the same level with people like Mijo.
Back to the original discussion Cap wins no sweat since he actually has powers. Also I didn't see anyone debate that, Mider said he only hated didn't think the Punisher was as good as you said.