The Sexualisation of minors

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I think even here the moral outrage and hysteria element is a major aspect, because it's not as if thong use is endemic among children- although, it's definitely something that wouldn't have happened however many years back.

It's a strange issue. Obviously children can't manufacture their own thongs. I think it may be as simple as (I've just realised the following phrasing isn't that simple after all) an ascending dialectic between sexualisation and sexual repression.

Interesting what do you make of the myriad of "preteen model" sites on the web VVD?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Interesting what do you make of the myriad of "preteen model" sites on the web VVD?

I think it's hard to judge, because if it were a scientific comparison between the prevalence/availability of those kinds of things now versus whenever in the past, the facility of the internet makes the comparison a little bit uneven.

Edit: just to add to that, the internet doesn't really create new problems from scratch, it simply changes existing ones. I think it microcosms society, and as a result brings previously less visible elements to the fore.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
I think it's hard to judge, because if it were a scientific comparison between the prevalence/availability of those kinds of things now versus whenever in the past, the facility of the internet makes the comparison a little bit uneven.

It does, what about a model posing toples in The Sport on her 16th Birthday?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
It does, what about a model posing toples in The Sport on her 16th Birthday?

The Sport has a page called In The Courts, with the official veneer (in fact it doesn't even disguise its true intention) of being law reporting, but all of the cases are clearly offered as fuel for some kind of niche (perhaps, or maybe that's naive) sexual predilection, as they are all cases of sexual abuse and rape, including those involving minors. All female, obviously.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
The Sport has a page called In The Courts, with the official veneer (in fact it doesn't even disguise its true intention) of being law reporting, but all of the cases are clearly offered as fuel for some kind of niche (perhaps, or maybe that's naive) sexual predilection, as they are all cases of sexual abuse and rape, including those involving minors. All female, obviously.

Soooooooo? What do you make of that?
Or preteen girls getting plastic surgery?

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Soooooooo? What do you make of that?
Or preteen girls getting plastic surgery?

We live in a society that balances perfectly its sexual tastes against the amount of repression, with a proliferation of provocative media imagery, within a capitalist paradigm where money beats morals.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
We live in a society which balances perfectly its sexual tastes against the amount of repression, with a proliferation of provocative media imagery, within a capitalist paradigm where money beats morals.

Do you feel our society sends incredibly mixed messages, on one hand we have the cult of celebrity - which by its very nature is both paedophilic and presents unsound role models for the young. The little girls who want to be Kylie also ask their mums why she shows her bum so much and on the other hand we are trying to reduce teenage pregnancies.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
We live in a society that balances perfectly its sexual tastes against the amount of repression, with a proliferation of provocative media imagery, within a capitalist paradigm where money beats morals.

At this point I believe we are growing into more of the wild child as sexual tastes and repressions have always been balanced just more discreetly.

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Sexualisation

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Do you feel our society sends incredibly mixed messages, on one hand we have the cult of celebrity - which by its very nature is both paedophilic and presents unsound role models for the young. The little girls who want to be Kylie also ask their mums why she shows her bum so much and on the other hand we are trying to reduce teenage pregnancies.

Very mixed. That's the heart of the problem.

Originally posted by soleran30
At this point I believe we are growing into more of the wild child as sexual tastes and repressions have always been balanced just more discreetly.

They tend to always be balanced, but right now it's threatening to boil over.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Very mixed. That's the heart of the problem.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had a thread where we all actually started propsing solutions 🙁

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a thread where we all actually started propsing solutions 🙁

There is an obvious solution though; limit the amount of idiotic hysteria, which only leads to lack of discussion and irrationality.

Of course, that will never happen. Papers need to be sold.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
There is an obvious solution though; limit the amount of idiotic hysteria, which only leads to lack of discussion and irrationality.

Of course, that will never happen. Papers need to be sold.

Yes that would be a start, I also feel keeping children as children would be to the benefit of all, as teen gangs etc are also a product of forcing kids to become "aware" to young! in my opinon.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Yes that would be a start, I also feel keeping children as children would be to the benefit of all, as teen gangs etc are also a product of forcing kids to become "aware" to young! in my opinon.

ps. guys, it was nice having a debate for a change rather than an argument!

That plus proper parenting.

All too many parents try to remove every "evil" instead of accepting the evil exists and working to protect their kids from it.

-AC

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
There is an obvious solution though; limit the amount of idiotic hysteria, which only leads to lack of discussion and irrationality.

Of course, that will never happen. Papers need to be sold.

Well that and the "liquid" media we have as the internet today...........things can change faster then tides with this much information........

"All too many parents try to remove every "evil" instead of accepting the evil exists and working to protect their kids from it."

I agree but I don't know if in my opinion protection is the best thing..........more like education but there does need to be protection indeed.

I think its important to remember that in the 'Information Age' people - children, in this case - get their information earlier. It's a sad by-product of a world demanding everything the minute it arrives.

Oh, I just noticed that some other cats have already voiced this idea - which can be seen as representative of the ethos impregnated within it.

Originally posted by BackFire
Kids shouldn't be so hot, it's not fair.

No, the "sexualisation" of children is not just in your mind. Every year, younger and younger children begin dressing like sluts, and showing more and more body then the year before, it has become quite troubling.

Agreed. But entertaining

Originally posted by BackFire
Kids shouldn't be so hot, it's not fair.

No, the "sexualisation" of children is not just in your mind. Every year, younger and younger children begin dressing like sluts, and showing more and more body then the year before, it has become quite troubling.

They dress like sluts because of pop stars like Britney setting a bad example.