But Luke does suck in the grand scheme of things. There's no use in comparing him to any of the other jedi or sith because they are the product of YEARS of training, sometimes even decades. And they have mastered forms and parts of the Force where Luke has not even begun to master himself.
And the common argument for Luke is that "He beet vadur there 4, he > 80% of cideus". Well, the problem with that (Aside from the obvious points I've been ramming down people's skulls for months) is that just killing someone doesn't make you better than them in every single case. Take King Richard the Lionhearted- fine king and knight. Product of fortune and experience in fighting, the likes of which you and I will never be able to reproduce. Killed by a peasant with a crossbow and perhaps ten minutes training with said weapon. Does the peasant become greater than King Richard in combat because he killed him? NO! Nonsequitor. Does not follow. Try and use logic instead of "He beet vadur!" please.
Originally posted by mace=badass
I'm having double thoughts about this after thinking about it. Mace might take this if they don't work together well. I just want to get it across that Luke does not suck.
FTW? Mace will take this, easily. How the hell would Luke and Obi-Wan be able to work together well enough to overcome the guy who toppled Sidious? But since you, like darthsith and Glentract, like to use the argument that Janus has beaten down a dozen times in the past day. . .
Luke beat Vader, who is 80% of Sidious. That means that Luke > 80% of Sidious, right?
Well Mace put the said Sith Lord on his arse. So I guess that makes Mace > 100% of Sidious.
OMG! That makes Mace +20% than Luke!
Just face it. Luke isn't that good yet. This doesn't mean that Luke won't become powerful and skillful in the future. But he literally is a farmboy with a week or so of training. How the hell could he even contend with someone like Mace?
Luke and Obi. Hell, Luke could take this.
And Mace is 53 years old, not 60.
And about this battle, IMO it could go either way. It all depends on how well the team works together. Even if they work together perfectly, though, they might still lose, but they stand a chance, anyway.