Silverspider/Dizzle's Team Tournament: Round 2, Fight 4- Scoobless vs. dman2008

I'm not going to be on later today.... and there's a good chance i wont be back on before these matches get closed tomorrow (i have a party to attend 🙂 )

I'll just point out a couple of things here to summarise.... and if dman is able to respond before i leave i may make one or two last posts
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1) My Magnetic beam:

I've posted these pics a couple of times.... but the simple fact is they are an excellent way of taking out my two tech based opponents in one hit without damaging the surroundings too much.

If any of you have ever accidentally placed a magnet on top of your TV, on a video cassette or -ugh- on your hard-drive then you'll know how easily a very weak magnetic field can cause havoc on electrical devices.... magnetising Steel or Cyborg should shut them down quite effectively... and i'd only need to hit one to take out both (refer back to pics).
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2) Sonics:

If cyborg starts throwing them around, Iron Man will remain unaffected as his armour automatically filters out harmful sound and light waves/frequencies

In return he can unleash his own sonic barrage which dman's team cannot defend against:

......the only reason i never used this from the start was the possibility that it would effect my own team as well.... but if they're already down there's no reason to hold back.

This alone should put any close in fighting to my advantage
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3) Long Range:

Thunderstrike and Iron Man are at the tourney caps for energy projection .... and both are just a hair short of the durability cap, i outlined my teams most basic abilities at the top of this page ... so there's no need to scroll around looking for it:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=392407&perpage=20&pagenumber=4

🙂
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4) Distraction:

Even Cyborg and Steel, with their limited sensor tech (😛) would be distracted by this tactic:

.... the fact is, even if you have the ability to double check if these guys are real or holographic, the least it will do is confuse you .... and while you're frantically trying to find the real IM, he's free to take a couple of shots.... For Artemis and Wonder-Girl though, there's no way to tell which IM is real.... they could spend the whole fight chasing ghosts.... or running from them

😈

Originally posted by Scoobless
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=392407&perpage=20&pagenumber=4

i was once told that no-one clicks links.... so i'll just re-post the post i was referring to:
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Hermod: At class 30 strength he's physically my weakest character, but he more than makes up for that with speed that rivals Quicksilver: http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/hermodthor.htm : If Quicksilver, with only slightly enhanced strength, can take down an older model Iron Man suit, Hermod can do the same in a fraction of the time:

In this situation he's tooled up with swords and daggers... normally these swords wouldn't be too much of a worry for Artemis & Co.... but if you consider that a 200mph wind can push a strand of straw through a tree.... i'm sure a 3000mph Asgardian God can put a sharp piece of steel through an Olympian.... or even a Cyborg
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Charcoal: Class 50, next "weakest" team member. however, most class 50 characters hit with human type enhanced hands ... not diamond hard superfast fists.

Analogy: imagine being hit in the face by someone half your size, then imagine they were holding a brick and swinging more than twice as fast (due to Mr Fantastic-esque flexibility) .... 🙂 yup... a class 50 character hitting with the same force as a class 100... enough to hurt/daze even Ionic bricks like Atlas:

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Thunderstrike: Class 80 flying brick, striking with force far beyond his own strength thanks to his Asgardian enchanted mace

Analogy: Someone of your own (or greater) strength hitting you in the face with a sledge-hammer. 😈

This Mace can also emit high level force blasts and it never runs out of power:

And if people crowd/gang up on him he can unleash a "Thunderblast":

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Iron Man is pretty much covered in the post above this one... but there are a couple more scans/abilities on the page in that link

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=392407&perpage=20&pagenumber=4

Originally posted by Scoobless
noise cannot be direected like that, he was talking about a sonic cannon or something... completely different, and Hermod will be around the ship before they get above deck

besides, one hit from this......

.....and all of Cyborg's and Steel's circuitry will be fried.... and they'll get stuck together

Scoob, if you fire off a magnetizing beam on board the pirate ship, won't it effect all metal objects, including Ironman's armor, Thunderstrike's mace, and all the swords, cannons, and cannonballs onboard the ship? It did attract those aircraft into that ship afterall.

I see in the scan that Ironman wasn't effected, but he was at some distance from the effect. According to the specs you've provided, his suit contains many ferrous materials. Does he have some type of quantifiable protection, or is it simply PIS?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Scoob, if you fire off a magnetizing beam on board the pirate ship, won't it effect all metal objects, including Ironman's armor, Thunderstrike's mace, and all the swords, cannons, and cannonballs onboard the ship? It did attract those aircraft into that ship afterall.

I see in the scan that Ironman wasn't effected, but he was at some distance from the effect. According to the specs you've provided, his suit contains many ferrous materials. Does he have some type of quantifiable protection, or is it simply PIS?

IM's armour is de-magnetised... I think he made it that way incase of EMP's and for some protection against Magneto

In fact Iron Man uses EMP's himself and remains unaffected.... i'll go find a scan

Uru (TS's mace material) isn't affected by magnetism

but yeah.... it should attract swords and stuff to whoever it hits (if they have metal parts)

Originally posted by Scoobless
IM's armour is de-magnetised... I think he made it that way incase of EMP's and for some protection against Magneto

In fact Iron Man uses EMP's himself and remains unaffected.... i'll go find a scan

Here you go:

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All from the same issue ..... 🙂

Interesting.

Dman: Do Steel and Cyborg have similar de-magnetizing technology?

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm not going to be on later today.... and there's a good chance i wont be back on before these matches get closed tomorrow (i have a party to attend 🙂 )

I'll just point out a couple of things here to summarise.... and if dman is able to respond before i leave i may make one or two last posts
__________________________________

1) My Magnetic beam:

I've posted these pics a couple of times.... but the simple fact is they are an excellent way of taking out my two tech based opponents in one hit without damaging the surroundings too much.

If any of you have ever accidentally placed a magnet on top of your TV, on a video cassette or -ugh- on your hard-drive then you'll know how easily a very weak magnetic field can cause havoc on electrical devices.... magnetising Steel or Cyborg should shut them down quite effectively... and i'd only need to hit one to take out both (refer back to pics).
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2) Sonics:

If cyborg starts throwing them around, Iron Man will remain unaffected as his armour automatically filters out harmful sound and light waves/frequencies

In return he can unleash his own sonic barrage which dman's team cannot defend against:

......the only reason i never used this from the start was the possibility that it would effect my own team as well.... but if they're already down there's no reason to hold back.

This alone should put any close in fighting to my advantage
_____________________________________

3) Long Range:

Thunderstrike and Iron Man are at the tourney caps for energy projection .... and both are just a hair short of the durability cap, i outlined my teams most basic abilities at the top of this page ... so there's no need to scroll around looking for it:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=392407&perpage=20&pagenumber=4

🙂
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4) Distraction:

Even Cyborg and Steel, with their limited sensor tech (😛) would be distracted by this tactic:

.... the fact is, even if you have the ability to double check if these guys are real or holographic, the least it will do is confuse you .... and while you're frantically trying to find the real IM, he's free to take a couple of shots.... For Artemis and Wonder-Girl though, there's no way to tell which IM is real.... they could spend the whole fight chasing ghosts.... or running from them

😈

You don't get it even if Ironman survives the sonic attack and the debries it will throw out by the time he tries to attack us will hve already taken Hermod down via the lasso.
Its 4-3

and since Thunderstrike and Charcoal are stunded by the sonic attack of Cyborg, they will be open for an attack by Steel and Cyborg while Wondergirl and Aretmis will put down Ironman.

Cyborg will defaet Thuuderstrike buy using a varity of things like enrgy blast and sound blasts from his cannon will defeat Thunderstrike who will be stunned and Deefenseless form Cyborgs soubd blast.

Charcoal will be defeated by Steel who wil use his speed concussion blats strenghtand his hammer to defeat Charcoal in a shhor time.

Giving my teaam a 4-1 to one advantege if Wondergirl and Artemis haven't beaten Ironman yet with their strength speed , Lasso, or Tiara yet.

Also Hermod gets defeated d when Artemis takes the impact o his blow away by blocking it with her due to the impact by people will be stunndd for mere seconds, but that will be enough time for wondergirl to laso Hermod taking him out.

So people let me summaurize my strategyfor you

Cyborg lauches enrgy blat at its highest level

Steel gets hit by Ironmans blast by most of the damage i taken away by his shields and intrenal dampening fields which take away a portion of the power of the attack. So steel will be backin the game in mere seconds

By that time hermod will have already been dealt with as seen in my last post then my team launches cyborg and he hits his most powerful of his sonic blast 1,000 decimals my teamfolows after Steel uses scanners and se ehe ha sfinhed hs atcck and get their before Scoobs team can react and we will defat his team as state in the last post I mad.

Artemis & Wondergirl are too busy with all the Holorgams of Iron man to notice Hermod coming from behind them

If you use sonics, I use sonics... your team will be just as, if not more, immobilised than mine... there's no question over Iron Man "surviving" it, the suit doesn't allow in harmful sensory input

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Anyway, I'm heading out..... it's been a good match dman 🙂

I may or may not be back before the match gets closed tomorrow... i guess i'll wait and see

later

😄

Scoob:

Can Ironman's holoprojector create the images through walls and around corners, or is IM going to be above deck the duration of combat?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Interesting.

Dman: Do Steel and Cyborg have similar de-magnetizing technology?

Well Cybrog has fought Dr. Polaris before in New Teen titans series 1l issue 17 and shown to have defenses against magnetism.

and steel can just switch out to human form i ironman tries anything like that.

Originally posted by dman2008
Well Cybrog has fought Dr. Polaris before in New Teen titans series 1l issue 17 and shown to have defenses against magnetism.

and steel can just switch out to human form i ironman tries anything like that.

also that was when Cyborg just started as a hero and his abilities and tech were far less advanced so if he was able to defend himself aginst Dr. Polaris's magnetic poers then he should not ve a problem with Ironma hwo has much weaker Magnetic powers then polaris has. 🙂

Originally posted by illadelph12
Scoob:

Can Ironman's holoprojector create the images through walls and around corners, or is IM going to be above deck the duration of combat?

he's not going to ahve enough time to plant holograms and even if he did Cyborg and Steel would be able to tell that they are holograms by their scanners and would tell Wonderirl and Artemis to ignore them

Also Artemis has an enhnaced ens eof smeell as seen in Artemis Requeim in which she was able to identify a demon y their smeel, so she should be able to deduce the differnts bewteen a human or machiens smell and a hologram

I have a question:

Scoob you keep posting different Ironman scans, the thing is there all different models. What model are you using, because while most of his models have the same specs, some dont have certain features.

seems IM is suffering a bit from overwork -- he's blasting pulse bolts, he's using sonics, he's using holograms . . . 😑

i love IM, but i don't know . . .

frankly, i'm having a very difficult time deciding this. has ANYONE reached a decision yet? 😕

Originally posted by leonidas
frankly, i'm having a very difficult time deciding this. has ANYONE reached a decision yet? 😕

Nope and gah! tommorow is the last day right?

Originally posted by leonidas
seems IM is suffering a bit from overwork -- he's blasting pulse bolts, he's using sonics, he's using holograms . . . 😑

i love IM, but i don't know . . .

frankly, i'm having a very difficult time deciding this. has ANYONE reached a decision yet? 😕

im not sure yet but will be voting tonight. I have work tomarrow so i probably won't be on till the thread is closed.

Everyoen the Main problem with Scoob argument is that he tinks he is going to have the time launch a bunch of attack which he won't be able to do.

During prpe Cyborg and steel will have alreayd have turned on their scanners, so they will able to see Scoob's team very quickly and Cyborg will fire a enegy blast froms his cannon at its highest power level to damage and disorient your team.

also ven if Hermod gets out in time and flanks my team as seen above Artemis will use her shield to lesson the blow and after running into the shield will haveslowed down enough for wondergirl to lso him and take him out of the fight giving my team a 4-3 advanteg

After defatingherod which should only take afew seconds Wondergirl and Artemis will find Steel who has sued the shield and the internal dampening fields to lesson the blast the pulse bots to almost nothing is about to throw steel after Cyborg fire sone last extremlydestructive nergy blast forom his cannon. After the blast they thow cyborg gets thrown by his team at scoobs team and unleashes his sonic blast at 1,000 decibels of white sound.

This should knocj back most of scoob's team including Ironman because I doubt Ironman will have enough time to turn of his ability to hear.

After cybrog la launche shis attack Steel and Wondeergirl and Artemis follow him and then fight scoob's team as I said before Steel defats charcoal with his concussion blasts hammer strength and speed, Cyborg uses his sonic cand enrgy attacks and strength to beat Thunderstrike, and Wondergirl and Artemis use their sstrength speed , tiara, lasso,and braclets to beat Ironman.
Givingmy team the victory

only part i don't like and that is giving me trouble is IM. he wouldn't be affected by cyborg's noise. so, if he's not, how do you pln on dealing with him?