Me (Jack Hawksmoor and the "evil" doctor) vs spawnrules (flash and GL)

Started by Spawnrules6 pages
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Nice try leo. But he doesn't need to make an offensive maneuver. During prep he flies into the air where Flash can't reach him, creates some shields to slow GL, then time-travels and murders their ancestors in the first few seconds of the fight before they can get through his shields.

what do you mean flash cant reah him, when he fought supergirl he ran to the moon

Originally posted by The Ion
Sounds like the typical Dr. Strange argument...

Except it came from Whirly....one of your own. Also one of the few who knows both sides well enough to truly know what's going on.

Wait...what's the definition of a "city"? I mean, Earth is filled with cities...Jack can't draw on the power of every city on Earth at once. What's the definition of a city? Does that mean anything separated by any degree of water or landmass vacant of buildings, or...what?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Except it came from Whirly....one of your own. Also one of the few who knows both sides well enough to truly know what's going on.

*speedblitzes Whirly*

Originally posted by Spawnrules
what do you mean flash cant reah him, when he fought supergirl he ran to the moon

Fair enough. But he still has shields. And let's make him invisible and intangible to boot. All he has to do is think about it, so his powers are really only limited by the imagination of who's arguing for him.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Fair enough. But he still has shields. And let's make him invisible and intangible to boot. All he has to do is think about it, so his powers are really only limited by the imagination of who's arguing for him.

all flash has to do is stop time

Damn, lots of things to reply to.

Originally posted by Scoobless
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=345948&highlight=Coruscant

🙂


Heheheh yep. I remembered that, and it inspired this thread.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
In that case GL simply stops time, which he can do 🙂

Right, and then the Doctor restarts it and unmakes Kyle's ring. Big deal.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Am I incorrect, or does Jack not get faster in a larger city, just as his strength and such go up? He would be nearing lightspeed himself, he's easily fast enough to prevent a speedblitz. The Doctor is safe inside a battlesuit and creating the "slow force" while Flash tries in vain to get in to hit him.

You are correct. His speed, jsut like everything else, gets amped in proportion to the city he's in.

Anyways. Jack controls the entie planet, which means he controls everything in it. What does that mean? Shield generators. Oh yes. Shields powerful enough to withstand bombardment by a fleet of Star Destroyers and the impact of dozens of world-killing asteroids placed in orbit by Admiral Thrawn. It also means large, mounted weapons, with which to defend the city

In addition, Jack can control the gravity within the city he's in. In the largest Earth city, that means he could levitate a good sized building and in New York it meant he could drag an invading force of huge aliens into the ground. Just imagine he could do when working on a planetary scale.

That doesn't even cover the evil Doctor. With the one minute of prep, he can make himself indestructible. He can change the worlds atmosphere so that the very air explodes in the vicinity of anything moving over 500 mph. He can "draw a detailed mental picture" in which Kyle's ring is shunted into a pocket dimension and cut off from his control.

My team WINS.

Super combo still works. Flash gives speed to GL, GL uses the advantage to stop time. From there they can destroy every building on the planet at their leisure. Or the GL ring can just locate the Doctor and Jack for them, where they can pick them off at their leisure.

Easy enough!

Yeah, and Flash has stopped time what, like every 3 issues, right? 🙄

Fighting a guy who can do the same thing, and rearrange the universe for fun while he's at it...Flash is over his head.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, and Flash has stopped time what, like every 3 issues, right? 🙄

Fighting a guy who can do the same thing, and rearrange the universe for fun while he's at it...Flash is over his head.

remember this is bloodlust he will do anything to Jack

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Yeah, and Flash has stopped time what, like every 3 issues, right? 🙄

Fighting a guy who can do the same thing, and rearrange the universe for fun while he's at it...Flash is over his head.


Since when does it matter how many issues he does it? Galactus jobs in every issue but that doesn't mean he isn't still the world devourer. 🙂

You realize their tactics here, right boys? They have more members. More members = more posts. But as we know, Crap posts don't = winning the fights....but they'll try and make us see otherwise. Because as much as I hate to admit it, I don't have the stamina to fight off 20+ ignorant JLA fanboys who've probably never read more than a few bios on the Authority (except for whirly and a few others).

Originally posted by DigiMark007
You realize their tactics here, right boys? They have more members. More members = more posts. But as we know, Crap posts don't = winning the fights....but they'll try and make us see otherwise. Because as much as I hate to admit it, I don't have the stamina to fight off 20+ ignorant JLA fanboys who've probably never read more than a few bios on the Authority (except for whirly and a few others).

stay on to the fight, not us

Originally posted by demigawd
Super combo still works. Flash gives speed to GL, GL uses the advantage to stop time. From there they can destroy every building on the planet at their leisure. Or the GL ring can just locate the Doctor and Jack for them, where they can pick them off at their leisure.

Easy enough!


The Doctor has remake anything you destroy after restarting time. And getting to the Doctor is going to be hard when the very air all around you explodes more violently the faster you move.

Ah, but what is this fight really about? The characters, or JLAKMC vs. KMC Authority? That's what I'm getting at. With neither team ever willing to concede (unless we drug leo or something...lol) I envision a lot of debates that lead us nowhere.

A fun idea, but definitely one that favors the larger side. I'm simply beginning to see the need for a change of strategy for the Authority.

...I may have some new ideas that spawn off of this, but for now I hereby remove myself from the debates.

....

And The Doctor wins. 😛

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Ah, but what is this fight really about? The characters, or JLAKMC vs. KMC Authority? That's what I'm getting at. With neither team ever willing to concede (unless we drug leo or something...lol) I envision a lot of debates that lead us nowhere.

A fun idea, but definitely one that favors the larger side. I'm simply beginning to see the need for a change of strategy for the Authority.

...I may have some new ideas that spawn off of this, but for now I hereby remove myself from the debates.

....

And The Doctor wins. 😛


You're right. This is quickly going to become pointless. Probably not a great idea, in the end.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Ah, but what is this fight really about? The characters, or JLAKMC vs. KMC Authority? That's what I'm getting at. With neither team ever willing to concede (unless we drug leo or something...lol) I envision a lot of debates that lead us nowhere.

A fun idea, but definitely one that favors the larger side. I'm simply beginning to see the need for a change of strategy for the Authority.

...I may have some new ideas that spawn off of this, but for now I hereby remove myself from the debates.

....

And The Doctor wins. 😛


pwnt

Originally posted by The Ion
Since when does it matter how many issues he does it? Galactus jobs in every issue but that doesn't mean he isn't still the world devourer. 🙂

Hawksmoor's going to be running/flying around at near lightspeed as is. Flash tries a speedblitz and gets his head torn off. If GL gets a ring, Hawksmoor will have built Doctor a battlesuit during prep, or immediately after the bell. (he's fast enough, remember?) Once inside, both would have a hard time hurting the Doctor, who is an offensive force. You can say Flash stops time, or Flash time travels, but what's stopping Jeroen from doing the same? Flash won't get to him in time, Doctor turns all of the organic material on the planet into cologne. If we really get into time manipulation, this will become a contest of which version is better, as both teams have the capability to do so.

Also, it wouldn't be in character for Flash to immediately stop time... Where it WOULD be in character for Hawksmoor to tear his limbs off when Flash tries a speedblitz and has the buildings on either side of him grow arms that move as fast as he does.

Dizzle, for the record... this si the evil doctor, not Jeroen.

Originally posted by Khellendros
You're right. This is quickly going to become pointless. Probably not a great idea, in the end.

I'm not trying to be a boner-killer in this case...just realistic.

A more structured challenge system would work better. One-on-one fights, with a pre-set neutral judge, and each person gets, say, 3 posts to make his/her point. Something like the recent signature duel forum. And you'd agree on the stipulations before the match.