Originally posted by Fishy
So if I would call you an *******, which is meant to hurt you I should be arrested or thrown in jail or get a fine or whatever?
No if it was to my face it would lead to a breach of the peace probably, so you would get in trouble yes. As well as probably hurt.
You would be charged with causing a breach of the peace. Calling someone names is not legal in most countries. As it infringes the individual you are calling names right to be left alone.
What he said was incitment to what exactly? Was there aver any violence inspired by what he said? Errr NO.
While I agree what Irving said was qrong. The holocaust did happen (My grandad was in Auchwitz) I know that. But for historical accuracy historians should be able to say what they want. Then another historian can come across and analize what has been said and support it or say its wrong. We must not lock people up!
Tony Blair said on Friday that we will never lock people up in Britain up for denying the holocaust by the way.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
No if it was to my face it would lead to a breach of the peace probably, so you would get in trouble yes. As well as probably hurt.You would be charged with causing a breach of the peace. Calling someone names is not legal in most countries. As it infringes the individual you are calling names right to be left alone.
Nothing would happen to him. The police would just tell him to be on his way he would not be arrested.
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Tony Blair said on Friday that we will never lock people up in Britain up for denying the holocaust by the way.
3 things Tony Blair will not always be in power, BNP leaders have been imprisoned lately for incitement and I do not think he should have been given 3 years either.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
3 things Tony Blair will not always be in power, BNP leaders have been imprisoned lately for incitement and I do not think he should have been given 3 years either.
Irving was an idiot. Perhaps he should visit Poland and see some concentration camps, however locking up people for difference of opinion is crazy. I guarantee if this was taken to the Court of Human Rights he'd be realised.
Nick Griffin was let off.
There is a huge difference between telling people to attack Muslims and saying the holocaust didn't happen.
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Irving was an idiot. Perhaps he should visit Poland and see some concentration camps, however locking up people for difference of opinion is crazy. I guarantee if this was taken to the Court of Human Rights he'd be realised.Nick Griffin was let off.
There is a huge difference between telling people to attack Muslims and saying the holocaust didn't happen.
Not Nick Griffin, I can't remember the guys name, I'll have to look it up. But Yes Irving was an idiot. I am not sure he would be released, this is entrenched law in all the Countries I mentioned, I58 people have been convicted in Austria using it over the last 10 years.
And Griffin wasn't let off he recieved a nine month suspended sentence.
I wonder...
Has the Holocaust been exaggerated? It says in Wikipedia that ~3,000,000 Jews from Poland were killed, making that the most significant source of Jewish mortality. Where did all these Jews come from? And why was there such a huge population of Jews in Poland?
[And if anyone spazzes out about me being an ignorant Nazi-sympathizer who doesn't know his history, I will hurl a cyber-brick at you. It will crash through your computer screen and break your face.]
Originally posted by FeceMan
I wonder...Has the Holocaust been exaggerated? It says in Wikipedia that ~3,000,000 Jews from Poland were killed, making that the most significant source of Jewish mortality. Where did all these Jews come from? And why was there such a huge population of Jews in Poland?
[And if anyone spazzes out about me being an ignorant Nazi-sympathizer who doesn't know his history, I will hurl a cyber-brick at you. It will crash through your computer screen and break your face.]
Jews had been immigrating to Poland since the middle ages. I do know that it was one of the largest population centers in Europe for Jews, and that was based on it's tolerence for their ethnicity and relious differences from "mainstream" European culture/religion/ethnicity.
As for teh numbers from the Holocaust, not just Jews, I think if anything, the numbers would be higher than the official records indicate. How many people were just shot in the back of the head before the trains even left the stations? The Germans kept remarkable records at teh camps, but that was only once the prisoners had reached the camps. There's no telling how many were off'd before they even arrived. So, the 3 million (Jews) mark in Poland alone is reasonable. I think only a couple of hunderd thousand were left after the war.