Doomsday Vs. The Avengers

Originally posted by olympian
"But isn't H/P DD immune to Super-Strength punches ? , other then a Bfr by Iron man I still don't see how they could beat H/P doomsday."

Oly- Imune? Ive read HP Doomsday and i dont recall that.

No what i mean is , H/P is after his original death correct ?

I heard he had evolved over death by super strength punches.

Originally posted by grey fox
No what i mean is , H/P is after his original death correct ?

I heard he had evolved over death by super strength punches.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not really provable for anyone to argue for or against that.

True , because then that's like saying he's evolved beyond punches....hmmmm

i think you can say he may have evolved beyond the point that a superman level character can defeat him physically. there is no top tier hero who could beat h/p dd in a strictly physical contest save perhaps the hulk because he is capable of getting stronger as the fight goes on.

Originally posted by leonidas
i think you can say he may have evolved beyond the point that a superman level character can defeat him physically. there is no top tier hero who could beat h/p dd in a strictly physical contest save perhaps the hulk because he is capable of getting stronger as the fight goes on.

So we need to get a character who is beyond supes in strength level ... out of curiosity, couldn't supes just sun dip and then beat the living crap out of doomsday ?

Originally posted by grey fox
So we need to get a character who is beyond supes in strength level ... out of curiosity, couldn't supes just sun dip and then beat the living crap out of doomsday ?

Because it wouldn't have been very interesting if Superman "died" of a heartattack

Originally posted by TheKahn
Because it wouldn't have been very interesting if Superman "died" of a heartattack

Wha...?

Originally posted by grey fox
Wha...?

Doomsday was created to "kill" Superman so even though a quick sun-dip should be enough to take him out now, the writers can't use it as everyone would wonder why Superman didn't do that instead of fighting DD to the "death"

Not really. Supes had never gone for a sundip at the time. Even when he did it in Our Worlds At War he noted it was a pretty big risk on his part diving into the heart of Sol.

Originally posted by grey fox
So we need to get a character who is beyond supes in strength level ... out of curiosity, couldn't supes just sun dip and then beat the living crap out of doomsday ?

probably -- at least that first version. but then we could say the same thing any number of times. why didn't he dip here, or there, for this or that?

can't forget it's still a comicbook, after all. could sundip beat h/p? hmm, that would be interesting. h/p appeared to be well stronger than regular supes. would be an interesting fight, no doubt . . .

oh, and that bit about needing to be stronger than supes to physically beat him IS just my speculation. he hasn't been defeated physically since then, so it's hard to know just how string h/p or the latest 'ultimate' version of dd is, though the ultimate battled 100's of superman level gogs for many many years . . .

Originally posted by The Ion
Not really. Supes had never gone for a sundip at the time. Even when he did it in Our Worlds At War he noted it was a pretty big risk on his part diving into the heart of Sol.

hmm. i didn't know that was the first time he'd one it. still begs the question why doesn't he do it all the time, but that type of question can be asked of many characters and many powers.