Germany: Fighting Racism in the Soccer Stadium before the 2006 World Cup.

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Germany: Fighting Racism in the Soccer Stadium before the 2006 World Cup.

Soccer stadiums: Nazi meeting point

That sensitivity is lacking in Germany, said Dombowski, where many soccer teams have active neo-Nazi fan blocs who use game time to build contacts and recruit new members. Those same fans shower foreign players with chanted racist slurs and songs, and display neo-Nazi symbols on banners and posters.

“In eastern Germany, (the Nazi element) is more open,” Dombowski said in an interview with DW-WORLD. “In the west, it has gotten more subtle, more hidden. They use codes and new symbols instead of the swastika.”

Replacing the jungle calls that once greeted players from the African continent are numbers like “88.” The number 8 being the numerical equivalent of the letter ”H," and "88" being skinhead code for "Heil Hitler."

Some teams, like the Hanover 96 club, have taken action against the codes and symbols, banning them from their stadiums. Teams in four German leagues, including the top flight Bundesliga, have also adopted a 10 point anti-racist plan fashioned by the German Soccer Association.

With teams lagging, fans take action

Dombowski said the first step that many teams should take is to acknowledge that they have radical fan blocs. But he said it was a step that many were still unwilling to take.

“I have a drawer full of resolutions (by teams), and not many have been implemented,” said Dombowski, who is active in BAFF, the Germany-wide organization against racism in soccer.

The initiative is often left up to fans frustrated by the tasteless songs and catcalls of others in the stadium. Johannes Stender started FCK Fans Against Racism for his hometown club FC Kaiserslautern after hearing fans ridicule opposing players as “gypsies.”

"It wasn’t an option for me to stop going to the games,” said Stender, who has been going to games for 22 years. “So I decided to take a stand against racism.”

Using his Web site, he brings like-minded fans together and posts reports from fans who witness racist behavior. Visitors are invited to sign a petition against racism.

Such grassroots initiatives need more encouragement and support from clubs, said Dombowski. With Germany set to hold the World Cup in 2006, everyone from Europe’s top soccer officials to people like Stender need to cooperate more to avoid an international embarassment.

”We can’t ban racism from soccer because it’s a problem of society,” said Dombowski. “The best we can do is recognize that it exists and that it continues to crop up.”

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,799673,00.html

Good Show the German Government!!!!!

It sucks that the sensible Germans are being misrepresented by the Neo-Nazis, but each country has idiots eh?

Sir Whirlysplat, what is up with all the German threads lately?

Originally posted by StyleTime
It sucks that the sensible Germans are being misrepresented by the Neo-Nazis, but each country has idiots eh?

Sir Whirlysplat, what is up with all the German threads lately?

Trying to annoy me. Won't work. Although I find the threads very boring...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Trying to annoy me. Won't work. Although I find the threads very boring...

Not at all Marius, I am being topical after Irving etc! I know you never get annoyed so I would not bother trying.

Well how nice for those guys... Still it can't be all that bad seeing as this is the first time I ever heard about this, and we hear about football stuff in germany 24/7

Originally posted by Fishy
Well how nice for those guys... Still it can't be all that bad seeing as this is the first time I ever heard about this, and we hear about football stuff in germany 24/7

I see................ hmmmm................

Originally posted by Bardock42
Trying to annoy me. Won't work. Although I find the threads very boring...

😆
Originally posted by Fishy
Well how nice for those guys... Still it can't be all that bad seeing as this is the first time I ever heard about this, and we hear about football stuff in germany 24/7

I also think that this may be only the actions a small group of people within Germany. Some others are feeling the need to address the problem early before it gets out of hand...again.

Bardock42 what would you say?

Originally posted by StyleTime
😆

I also think that this may be only the actions a small group of people within Germany. Some others are feeling the need to address the problem early before it gets out of hand...again.

Bardock42 what would you say?

Well I haven't heard of it being a big problem. I think people make it a bigger thing than it is.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well I haven't heard of it being a big problem. I think people make it a bigger thing than it is.

Are you sure about that, or are they just trying to color it up?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Are you sure about that, or are they just trying to color it up?

I'm pretty sure that what he said is right... The Dutch press is talking about everything related to the 2006 WC.. They would surely have talked about this if it was big.

Originally posted by Fishy
They would surely have talked about this if it was big.

I wouldn't be to certain about that. They would ignore/cover up things that don't make them look good.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I wouldn't be to certain about that. They would ignore/cover up things that don't make them look good.

The Dutch media couldn't care less about what makes Germany look good or bad, as long as it gets viewers... And a story like this is a hell of a lot better then a story about a new hand shake because of chicken disease bullshit that they air at the very end of the news just to fill time...

Originally posted by Fishy
... And a story like this is a hell of a lot better then a story about a new hand shake because of chicken disease bullshit that they air at the very end of the news just to fill time...

✅ You cant argue with that, homes.

its probably no bigger then englands football thugs....

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
its probably no bigger then englands football thugs....

Read the article and research it, trust me it is!

Racist germany?! Unheard of.

Originally posted by KidRock
Racist germany?! Unheard of.

No really!!!

aren't you a millwall fan??

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
aren't you a millwall fan??

🙂 Yes and we have the best programme to combat racism in the UK as many of the fans are from minorities these days, that does not alter the fact we have the worst hardcore in the UK. sadly.

And how many times have you seen fights at the grounds??? While I'm sure that racism is still a problem, You don't hear half as much about german fans being banned from the world cup...

The behaviour now known as 'football hooliganism' originated in England in the early 1950s (1950s: The decade from 1950 to 1959) .

In other European countries, similar patterns of behaviour emerged about 10 years later, in the early 1970s (1970s: The decade from 1970 to 1979) .

England... Leading the way...