Anti-Racism Groups Slam German Ads

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Anti-Racism Groups Slam German Ads

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"In commercials or advertising posters, Asians and blacks are usually used to either give Germans something to laugh about or they’re reduced to ethnic clichés," So said. She referred to a current commercial on MTV Germany for an online music download platform, in which an Asian teenager never manages to buy music by his favorite band, as he can’t utter the letter "r" and keeps saying "Lamones" instead of "Ramones."

"Das Neue Ladio -- Sehl Gutel Musiksendl" -- Radio channel Youfm for youngsters falls back on the alleged Asian speech quirk (R) again in its advertisement for "The New Radio -- Very Good Music Program"Such stereotypes are frequently played upon in German ads. "Asians are usually depicted as small, giggly people who can't pronounce the letter "r" and constantly take photographs, while blacks are shown either as victims in need of donations or as hip DJs," So said.

"I see black -- I see white," an advertisement for the GEZ central fees office for public broadcasting in Germany. In German, doing something "black" means doing it illegally. Norbert Finzsch, a history professor at the University of Cologne, agreed. "The way Africans and African Americans in Germany are perceived and discussed, the way they are presented on billboards and in TV ads proves that the colonialist and racist gaze is still very much alive in Germany," he said in an open letter last month calling for the African cultural festival in the Augsburg zoo not to open.

Selective political correctness?

The allegations might seem surprising given that Germany is known to be particularly careful about relations with its 6.8 million-strong immigrant population, in view of its past.

But anti-racism campaigners suggest that many Germans have a selective concept of political correctness -- an attitude which is perpetuated by advertising, they say.

"There are many decision-makers -- but ours rely on technology and multimedia." "Naturally, you won't find any racist or offensive portrayals of Jews or Sinti and Roma people in German advertising, because most Germans are acutely aware that that's off-limits," So said.

Yu-Dembski added that given Germany's large Turkish population of some 1.9 million, the stereotyping of Muslims in commercials is also taboo. "The Asian community, in comparison, is small and almost invisible. There's almost this unspoken agreement that the Asians are the laughing stock in German advertising," she said.

Please continue reading to find out what the advertising industry has to say

"In commercials or advertising posters, Asians and blacks are usually used to either give Germans something to laugh about or they’re reduced to ethnic clichés," So said. She referred to a current commercial on MTV Germany for an online music download platform, in which an Asian teenager never manages to buy music by his favorite band, as he can’t utter the letter "r" and keeps saying "Lamones" instead of "Ramones."

"Das Neue Ladio -- Sehl Gutel Musiksendl" -- Radio channel Youfm for youngsters falls back on the alleged Asian speech quirk (R) again in its advertisement for "The New Radio -- Very Good Music Program"Such stereotypes are frequently played upon in German ads. "Asians are usually depicted as small, giggly people who can't pronounce the letter "r" and constantly take photographs, while blacks are shown either as victims in need of donations or as hip DJs," So said.

"I see black -- I see white," an advertisement for the GEZ central fees office for public broadcasting in Germany. In German, doing something "black" means doing it illegally. Norbert Finzsch, a history professor at the University of Cologne, agreed. "The way Africans and African Americans in Germany are perceived and discussed, the way they are presented on billboards and in TV ads proves that the colonialist and racist gaze is still very much alive in Germany," he said in an open letter last month calling for the African cultural festival in the Augsburg zoo not to open.

Selective political correctness?

The allegations might seem surprising given that Germany is known to be particularly careful about relations with its 6.8 million-strong immigrant population, in view of its past.

But anti-racism campaigners suggest that many Germans have a selective concept of political correctness -- an attitude which is perpetuated by advertising, they say.

"There are many decision-makers -- but ours rely on technology and multimedia." "Naturally, you won't find any racist or offensive portrayals of Jews or Sinti and Roma people in German advertising, because most Germans are acutely aware that that's off-limits," So said.

Yu-Dembski added that given Germany's large Turkish population of some 1.9 million, the stereotyping of Muslims in commercials is also taboo. "The Asian community, in comparison, is small and almost invisible. There's almost this unspoken agreement that the Asians are the laughing stock in German advertising," she said.

Please continue reading to find out what the advertising industry has to say

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You posted the same thing twice there...

anyways stereotyping happens a lot when trying to get a message across, it apparantly helps sales and I really don't see anything wrong with it. It doesn't or at least shouldn't offend anybody and unless its used in commercials that are meant to be racist I don't see any problems.

Originally posted by Fishy
You posted the same thing twice there...

anyways stereotyping happens a lot when trying to get a message across, it apparantly helps sales and I really don't see anything wrong with it. It doesn't or at least shouldn't offend anybody and unless its used in commercials that are meant to be racist I don't see any problems.

🙂 WHOOPS MY MISTAKE!!!

"But anti-racism campaigners suggest that many Germans have a selective concept of political correctness -- an attitude which is perpetuated by advertising, they say."

DONT MENTION THE HOLOCAUST!!!! DO NOT JOKE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST!!! DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST!!!! ...aren't asian people short and funny looking?

Originally posted by PVS
"But anti-racism campaigners suggest that many Germans have a selective concept of political correctness -- an attitude which is perpetuated by advertising, they say."

DONT MENTION THE HOLOCAUST!!!! DO NOT JOKE ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST!!! DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST!!!! ...aren't asian people short and funny looking?

I didn't know you got "Fawlty Towers" in the US.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I didn't know you got "Fawlty Towers" in the US.

I was unaware that was from FT. But we do, and I love it. John Cleese is a genius.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I was unaware that was from FT. But we do, and I love it. John Cleese is a genius.

It was actually whatever you do don't mention the War but it's kind of near.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/16/ngerm16.xml

Whats with all the German racist threads???? Why you only selecting Germany's racism problem???

Ah... Fawlty Towers... They just don't make them like that any more! I really should watch M.P again... Always cracks me up...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Whats with all the German racist threads???? Why you only selecting Germany's racism problem???

Ah... Fawlty Towers... They just don't make them like that any more! I really should watch M.P again... Always cracks me up...

Because Germany and Austria know they have a problem and are trying to do something about it despite the people within there Countries who deny the problem. Mainly the very young people.

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Why you only selecting Germany's racism problem???

Because in the near-future they will have people of many races from around the world in their country. And its a fairly safe assumption that a lot of the German people wont like it.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Because Germany and Austria know they have a problem and are trying to do something about it despite the people within there Countries who deny the problem. Mainly the very young people.

And you swear to your gypsy god those threads are not aimed at me...haha.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Because in the near-future they will have people of many races from around the world in their country. And its a fairly safe assumption that a lot of the German people wont like it.

I think you are wrong, we like people...from everywhere...and even more, we like Football.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think you are wrong, we like people...from everywhere...and even more, we like Football.

YOU like people from everywhere. how can you even claim to speak for your entire country? and dont take that as germany bashing, since the u.s. has its own problems with growing white supremacist movements.

i appreciate your desire to not allow your country to be besmirched by kmc trolls, but you have to acknowledge that this isnt all made up either. the obvious intent in spamming the forum with racism/germany threads is recognised by most if not all. however that doesnt mean that racism is not a big problem over there.

Originally posted by PVS
YOU like people from everywhere. how can you even claim to speak for your entire country? and dont take that as germany bashing, since the u.s. has its own problems with growing white supremacist movements.

i appreciate your desire to not allow your country to be besmirched by kmc trolls, but you have to acknowledge that this isnt all made up either. the obvious intent in spamming the forum with racism/germany threads is recognised by most if not all. however that doesnt mean that racism is not a big problem over there.

You are aware that I was joking 😐 ...I mean the football thing kind of gave it away didn't it.

I have no problem with discussing Racism, and certainly not with Racism that occurs in Germany, but lets be honest, Whirly just googled "Racism + Germany" and posted whatever he found. It is true, there is a comercial with an Asian that uses the R-L thing (not that his is racist since it exists, undeniably), but this is hardly racist. People try to make it out to be for qwhatever reason, but that are jsut commercials, there'S one for a Kind of chocolate that has an Asian exchange students who tells his family at home about the chocolate. THat's hardly racist at all. This is totally biased and overall just Bullshit. That's all it is, this thread is trolling at it's best, nothing else.

Originally posted by Bardock42
but lets be honest, Whirly just googled "Racism + Germany" and posted whatever he found.

well you dont know that....there are other search engines you know... 😉

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is true, there is a comercial with an Asian that uses the R-L thing (not that his is racist since it exists, undeniably), but this is hardly racist. People try to make it out to be for qwhatever reason, but that are jsut commercials, there'S one for a Kind of chocolate that has an Asian exchange students who tells his family at home about the chocolate. THat's hardly racist at all. This is totally biased and overall just Bullshit. That's all it is, this thread is trolling at it's best, nothing else.

steriotyping IS racism. also, the public allowance of steriotyping, however seemingly harmless, exhibits widespread racism. the same as people tend to not flinch in america when a media demagog yells "rag head".

Stereotyping isn't racist generally. Besides the commercial was about an individual....the commercial is pretty funny actually.

We have a commercial that's called "You are Germany", and there are blacks as well as Turkish Germans and other immigrants included saying "We are Germany" or "YOu are Germany"....they are germans, and as germans they will get the same sort of jokes the whites get as well. In another of those "Musicload" commercials there's a WHite man portrayed as rather slow, is that racist towards all Whites? Hell no, if at all one can claim that in German commercials everyone is treated equal, meaning there's no racism against immigrant either. You know not including immigrants in commercials is racism too. I am certain that no Asian German that sees this commericial is bothered a bit, therefore this is nto racism, but a professor who's an attention whore. Nothing more.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think you are wrong, we like people...from everywhere...

🙄 And I'm the heir to the British throne...

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
🙄 And I'm the heir to the British throne...

Have you been to Germany? have you been persecuted by Germans? Do are you just pulling facts from your
"Ho ho, its fun to stereotype Colouring time bumper fun book"

The one where all the English drink Tea and watch the Queen 24/7
Aussies all have crocodiles as pets and all speak like steve erwin
and Most importantly,
All Germans are hitlercons, Nazi's in disguise, all waiting for the glorious return of Adolf and the "Waffen SS"...

Please... Germany's racism problem is probably no worse then most countries, but its blow out of proportion cause they once tried to "cleanse" the world..

Unless Whirly can actually Show some figures that show theres more racists in Germany then anywhere else in the world...

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Have you been to Germany? have you been persecuted by Germans? Do are you just pulling facts from your
"Ho ho, its fun to stereotype Colouring time bumper fun book"

I lived in Germany when I was in the Army, thank you. 😐

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I lived in Germany when I was in the Army, thank you. 😐

Oh and we certainly were all Hitlers in disguise?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh and we certainly were all Hitlers in disguise?

😬 Well, I wouldn't say all. They don't like US Serviceman and the fact I'm Hispanic certainly didn't help either.

....I can honestly say that your women LOVE Latin dick, though!