Quicksilver vs Flash in a fist fight no running just a fight.

Originally posted by meep-meep
It's probably not smart to try and use real world phsyics here because even if Flash, or whoever has light speed "reflexes," were to strike somebody using them they would succed in doing 2 things. ! the person being struck would likely bust open like a smashed pumpkin and 2 the person striking would probably lose their arm and most of their torso in the same manner. There is no way, logically speaking, that Flash is simply human if he can perform such feats. He'd need to have bones and muscle made of something that is resistant to any shock and could recover instantaneously. At least Quicksilver's physiology can somwhat prove his actual abilities. So, please don't use real world logic to back up the argument you are using.

Originally posted by Maleficus
You are forgetting that there is also comic book logic placed into that argument as well. Any 'Flash' you choose also has a second power. Besides lightspeed reflexes and stuff like that, the flash can also withstand the amazing force of his own movement, not to mention the attacks he dishes out to his opponents. And even if neither QS or the flash had any powers, the flash would still win because of his intense fighting skill. Not only does he move at incredible speeds, but he's also a master of the martial arts. (At least I think, that might just be Wally West, I haven't read many of the flash comics.)

No I'm not forgetting the fact that real logic is often incorportated into comic book logic in these forums. I'm pointing it out. When people use real world logic they usually only do so to refute other posters beliefs or reinforce their own. It has no basis in comic book reality. If it did than their would be logical explanations, based on what we understand now in our universe, for how Lobo can clone himself instantly from a drop of blood, or how a gorilla could become a super genius, telepath besides just saying a meteor crashed near it's once "regular" gorilla tribe. Saying Wally West is capable of moving at the speed of light and alsosaying he is composed of skin, muscles and bones and every other human organ would suggest that if he ever did run at the speed of light he'd be vaporized. Stick with Comic book logic and leave reality out of it. Otherwise you just confuse matters worse.

Originally posted by meep-meep
No I'm not forgetting the fact that real logic is often incorportated into comic book logic in these forums. I'm pointing it out. When people use real world logic they usually only do so to refute other posters beliefs or reinforce their own. It has no basis in comic book reality. If it did than their would be logical explanations, based on what we understand now in our universe, for how Lobo can clone himself instantly from a drop of blood, or how a gorilla could become a super genius, telepath besides just saying a meteor crashed near it's once "regular" gorilla tribe. Saying Wally West is capable of moving at the speed of light and alsosaying he is composed of skin, muscles and bones and every other human organ would suggest that if he ever did run at the speed of light he'd be vaporized. Stick with Comic book logic and leave reality out of it. Otherwise you just confuse matters worse.

No the speedforce deals with the various problems you've just raised. Please dont try to ram your opinion down others throats with a snarky post.

Originally posted by meep-meep
No I'm not forgetting the fact that real logic is often incorportated into comic book logic in these forums. I'm pointing it out. When people use real world logic they usually only do so to refute other posters beliefs or reinforce their own. It has no basis in comic book reality. If it did than their would be logical explanations, based on what we understand now in our universe, for how Lobo can clone himself instantly from a drop of blood, or how a gorilla could become a super genius, telepath besides just saying a meteor crashed near it's once "regular" gorilla tribe. Saying Wally West is capable of moving at the speed of light and alsosaying he is composed of skin, muscles and bones and every other human organ would suggest that if he ever did run at the speed of light he'd be vaporized. Stick with Comic book logic and leave reality out of it. Otherwise you just confuse matters worse.

did you read the posts where me and spetz basically said all this

anyways, the comic writers do enough of this themselves. They incorporated "speedforece" as a be all end all argument for why the molecules in the flashes body dont gain enough energy to break their bonds to eachother as he moves faster.

there are constants in reality that we can work with, given that we take anything that is said by the comic writers as true

in fact, a lot of the threads here end up being discussions of how certain powers would work within the realm of real world physics, especially anything with iceman in it