He gets to 7 and then he's screwed royally...Wonderman's invulnerable, FAAAAAAR stronger, can fly, & near unlimited stamina and durability...I mean c'mon, he once held up the entire Avengers island including the mansion once when they were fighting the lava men...by himself...now that's impressive. Cap's more agile and the better fighter, but what's that matter when you're fighting someone that can pick up an island and is bullet-proof?
Originally posted by Pepito
Havok's plasma blasts are only as strong as Cyclops's eye blasts which have been repeatedly stopped by the shield. He loses to WM.
Cyclops' blast are a concussive force and go only in one direction.
Havoks are heated plasma and can go omnidirectional. Id say powerwise Havok is more powerful
Originally posted by Silent Master
Cap has actually survived the Human Torch's nova blast by hiding behind that shield.
Anyway, if he somehow takes Alex he stops at Slade. Normally I'd say he stops at Green Arrow but I hear he's suffered some embarrassing losses lately.
Originally posted by The Ion
How stupid is that? I can understand the shield surviving but the surrounding heat should have totally melted Cap.Anyway, if he somehow takes Alex he stops at Slade. Normally I'd say he stops at Green Arrow but I hear he's suffered some embarrassing losses lately.
What I was thinking... And the thing should be way too small for him to get his entire body inside, considering the fact that it's almost always portrayed that his arm is longer than the shield is wide... Whatever. If he somehow pulls a lucky shield throw to hit Havok, he should get to Connor Hawke... And probably lose. (I'm even leaning twards Connor for a 6/10... It's close, to say the least)
But beating Deathstroke? Cmon now, that's just plain gullibility. Slade's like Cap v. 5000. Better in every conceivable way. Cap would get stomped on.
Originally posted by Dizzleyeah....but i think that he can get Connor and Havok, the way havok has been acting.....cap would shut him down....but DS gets him.
What I was thinking... And the thing should be way too small for him to get his entire body inside, considering the fact that it's almost always portrayed that his arm is longer than the shield is wide... Whatever. If he somehow pulls a lucky shield throw to hit Havok, he should get to Connor Hawke... And probably lose. (I'm even leaning twards Connor for a 6/10... It's close, to say the least)But beating Deathstroke? Cmon now, that's just plain gullibility. Slade's like Cap v. 5000. Better in every conceivable way. Cap would get stomped on.
Originally posted by King KAM
yeah....but i think that he can get Connor and Havok, the way havok has been acting.....cap would shut him down....but DS gets him.
Meh, I seriously see Connor taking 6/10. His arrows give him a versatility edge, and his h2h fighting is enough to rival Lady Shiva. (I do remember Batman admitting that Connor was better than him...) Cap's good, and has a more powerful weapon in his shield, but I think Connor's extra skills push him a notch above Cap. It'd be close either way, I just think GA would win a few more times than not.
Havok's natural attack is omnidirectional... The suit is used for control, not amplification. There's no logical reason why Cap could survive it, unless Havok figths retarded. Opening with a big blast is a bit out of character, though, and given even a small edge, Cap has proven time and again to be able to give him a facefull and a half of shield and American justice.
So, with benefit of the doubt for both Havok and Connor in Cap's favor, Deathstroke curbstomps him into oblivion.
Originally posted by DizzleI dont know.....i sincerely dont think that connor can touch Cap, unless he uses like a nuke arrow, because hes not landing any arrow shots...
Meh, I seriously see Connor taking 6/10. His arrows give him a versatility edge, and his h2h fighting is enough to rival Lady Shiva. (I do remember Batman admitting that Connor was better than him...) Cap's good, and has a more powerful weapon in his shield, but I think Connor's extra skills push him a notch above Cap. It'd be close either way, I just think GA would win a few more times than not.Havok's natural attack is omnidirectional... The suit is used for control, not amplification. There's no logical reason why Cap could survive it, unless Havok figths retarded. Opening with a big blast is a bit out of character, though, and given even a small edge, Cap has proven time and again to be able to give him a facefull and a half of shield and American justice.
So, with benefit of the doubt for both Havok and Connor in Cap's favor, Deathstroke curbstomps him into oblivion.
He get's to deathstroke who then beats seven kinds of crap out of Cap .
Cap is deathstroke lite.....
its amazing how Cap can protect his entire body with a shield that's just about three feet across
Cap probably crouches behind it , although i was always thought patriotism protected him .
'As long as America stands cap can never fall '
*I then punch out who ever say's that*