Well, it depends if this is pre-helmet or post-helmet.
Pre-Helmet Vader:
Vader vs Dooku= Dooku
Sidious vs Yoda= That's kinda hard to decide. But once Dooku beats Vader, Sidious is pwned.
Or, it could be:
Vader vs Yoda= Yoda (WTFpwn)
Sidious vs Dooku= probably Sidious. If this is an enclosed space, then Dooku. But then again, Yoda'd beat Vader in seconds, so the team wins anyway.
For post helmet, Sidious vs Vader'd be pwned any way you set it up. So Dooku and Yoda win every single time.
Originally posted by kamikz
You think Vader can beat Dooku with terrain advantage?
No, however if Sidious stands on top of a mountain with god knows how many broken pods AT-ST's and ships there and Yoda and Dooku have to walk up the mountain on a very small mountain path... Then well Vader and Sids have a chance.
Meh. There's no environmental factor here. I'm really not going to get into the Vader v. Dooku or Yoda v. Sidious debates, as both are murky. On the one side of the coin, you have the fact that Vader mercilessly slaughtered Dooku, and that Yoda fled the Senate building for a reason. On the other, you have the fact that there are inconsistencies with both (Dooku took out Obi-Wan fairly easily, and Obi-Wan defeated Vader), and that Yoda managed to overpower Sidious during crucial points in their battle.
In my opinion, Sidious can defeat Dooku. However, he cannot take Dooku and Yoda, and then would be WTFpwned. Anakin isn't level headed or intelligent. One 'Yo Momma' joke, and Vader's dead. Then Yoda and Dooku proceed to kill Sidious.
Viola. Yoda and Dooku win.
Originally posted by kamikz
So you're back Escape, how ya been, where where you?
I've been fine. As to where I've been, I was absent. The whole Sidious v. Yoda/Ragnos/blah blah issue killed off the fun for me. In that time, I've learned that everyone here has their preferences.
You have the npobs on one side who grotesquely overrate him, and make him out to be the centerpiece of Star Wars, and blow his abilities considerably out of proportion.
On the other side, you have the noobs who grotesquely undermine him, blowing off his considerable achievements, labeling him weak, powerless, and even more absurd - incompetent.
There's no middle ground, except for Faunus, and it's become repetitive.
It killed off all interest in these forums.
Originally posted by Escape81
I've been fine. As to where I've been, I was absent. The whole Sidious v. Yoda/Ragnos/blah blah issue killed off the fun for me. In that time, I've learned that everyone here has their preferences.You have the npobs on one side who grotesquely overrate him, and make him out to be the centerpiece of Star Wars, and blow his abilities considerably out of proportion.
On the other side, you have the noobs who grotesquely undermine him, blowing off his considerable achievements, labeling him weak, powerless, and even more absurd - incompetent.
There's no middle ground, except for Faunus, and it's become repetitive.
It killed off all interest in these forums.
Kinda have to agree with that, well Faunus and Nai really...
Originally posted by Escape81
I've been fine. As to where I've been, I was absent. The whole Sidious v. Yoda/Ragnos/blah blah issue killed off the fun for me. In that time, I've learned that everyone here has their preferences.You have the npobs on one side who grotesquely overrate him, and make him out to be the centerpiece of Star Wars, and blow his abilities considerably out of proportion.
On the other side, you have the noobs who grotesquely undermine him, blowing off his considerable achievements, labeling him weak, powerless, and even more absurd - incompetent.
There's no middle ground, except for Faunus, and it's become repetitive.
It killed off all interest in these forums.
I see, so what made you come back?
Fishy, as skilled and as tactical as Nai Fohl is - 98% of all his arguments are based on 'why Sidious is a weak loser'. Faunus is the only person who has given an apt description of that Sith Lord. You ought to ask him about it some time. He got fed up when Nai said that Obi-Wan and Anakin could defeat Sidious, or something of that nature. . .
As for what made me come back, I got bored. I hoped that the struggle ended.
If that quote from Kevin J. Anderson truly exists, then I suppose that Sidious is truly stronger than the Sith Lords of old. If it does not exist, then Sidious is probably weaker. That's all I'll say on it.
But, looking around, lol, I still see a lot of Revan v. Kun. Revan v. Sidious. Kun v. Sidious. A lot of fanboyism on all side, of which I can be guilty of myself.
Oh well.