Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
I think Lucas was more involved in Jedi than just producing and writing the story. You can tell by the whole feel of the film... its much more similar to the prequels than either of the other classic films.And in my opinion, Hook was one of Spielberg's duds...
another great point as always.Yeah I always had that feeling as well that Lucas was much more involved with Jedi than he was with Empire.With the success of A NEW HOPE Lucas seemed to have lost his magic touch at making great movies somehow.I guess he just got lazy because yeah, JEDI always felt similiar to the prequels and nothing at all like his other two star wars masterpieces before jedi.
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
The Terminal was a few hours of my life wasted that i'll never get back.
Personally, I loved that movie.
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Wow, you're stupid.Either you're being sarcastic (Which is horrid, and the joke wasn't funny) or you really did screw up and you're a moron.
Respect ones opinion.
Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Wow, you're stupid.Do you really expect Spielberg to see a few years into the future?
Either you're being sarcastic (Which is horrid, and the joke wasn't funny) or you really did screw up and you're a moron.
Then I guess I'm screwed up and a moron, cuz I aint joking. That image in AI is a major point-deductor against Speilburg.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
He didn't "co-direct" ROTJ, so how could he be any more involved in it other than writing and producing it? Richard Marquand was a shit director, too.
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Then I guess I'm screwed up and a moron, cuz I aint joking. That image in AI is a major point-deductor against Speilburg.
..again, who would have had to been a gypsy, because the movie was released 2 months before September 11th. If you're going to rip him, atleast spell his name correctly.
Besides, it's not like "A.I." was the only Sci Fi movie to feature the WTC in a movie, and set in the future.
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
He's not credited as doing anything else, but I'm almost certain he did more than just write and produce. He even did some second unit directing on ESB as well without being credited. A lot of people do uncredited work on films...
Not co-directing, though. There's nothing more that George Lucas could have done in that movie other than what he already did, which was write and produce (which includes editing). If he were a co-director, his name would have been in the credits. It wasn't. He didn't. That's that.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Not co-directing, though. There's nothing more that George Lucas could have done in that movie other than what he already did, which was write and produce (which includes editing). If he were a co-director, his name would have been in the credits. It wasn't. He didn't. That's that.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086190/fullcredits
"George Lucas .... second unit director (uncredited)"
To believe everybody always gets due credit in the film business is just plain ignorant. Tonnes of people do uncredited work on films. Not least of all Steven Spielberg on Poltergiest. He's not given a co-directors credit, but he was very heavily involved in the making of the film.
Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
That's simply not true. Watch the 'Empire of Dreams' documentary if you don't believe me... Hell, just check IMDb:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086190/fullcredits
"George Lucas .... second unit director (uncredited)"
To believe everybody always gets due credit in the film business is just plain ignorant. Tonnes of people do uncredited work on films. Not least of all Steven Spielberg on Poltergiest. He's not given a co-directors credit, but he was very heavily involved in the making of the film.
Alright, so we don't get things twisted, he was NOT second unit director on "ESB".
Besides, second unit is usually post-production, not involving actors, and if any, none with speaking lines, nor the stars of the film, which don't have any effect on the movie itself. Since we're citing IMDB, here's their definition;
Second Unit
AKA: 2nd Unit
A small, subordinate crew responsible for filming shots of less importance, such as inserts, crowds, scenery, etc.
I never said that people always get their name in the credits for their work, or believed they did. Lucas didn't direct ESB. Taking shots for his signature wipes and bumper shots isn't "directing" in the standard sense.
..and for what it's worth, going back to "ROTJ", Lucas WAS Second Unit director on it, BEHIND another second unit director, AND ALONG SIDE 5 OTHER "co-directors. If that doesn't dwindle his involvement in THAT film down, he didn't even write the screenplay for "ROTJ". It's "his" movie in the sense he wrote the story. That's it.
Spielberg wrote and produced "Poltergeist", that's common knowledge. Rumour once had it that he stepped in and directed scenes, then he admitted himself that it was Hooper who directed the film. It'll never be proven either way. There's one interview circulating that suggests the same, with Hooper himself.
Poltergeist - Hooper or Spielberg
I don't have the nickname I do just to look pretty and pretend I know about things I don't... 😛
No (though that is a fair point...). I'm sure I'm not going crazy! Will some Star Wars uber-dweeb back me up on this? 😛
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Alright, so we don't get things twisted, he was NOT second unit director on "ESB".
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Spielberg wrote and produced "Poltergeist", that's common knowledge. Rumour once had it that he stepped in and directed scenes, then he admitted himself that it was Hooper who directed the film. It'll never be proven either way. There's one interview circulating that suggests the same, with Hooper himself.Poltergeist - Hooper or Spielberg
I don't have the nickname I do just to look pretty and pretend I know about things I don't... 😛
Seriously, I respect that you are probably one of the people on these boards who knows the most about films, but I'm sure I'm not making this up...
*watches Empire of Dreams to secure sanity*
"Another challenge on the set was Richard Marquand's relative inexperience with special effects... [Lucas speaking:] I hadn't realised that ultimately it was probably easier for me to do these things than to farm them out... I really did have to end up being there every day on the set and working very closely with Richard and shooting second unit. There was really more work than I thought it was going to be."
While you could argue that it's the job of the Producer (of which there's no question Lucas is) to be on set every day anyway, but just watch the doco and you'll see that his involvement stretched a tad beyond shooting inserts, crowds, scenery...
[EDIT]: Just going back to Empire, I do remember seeing or reading somewhere (don't remember where... either the doco, the commentary or somewhere) that Lucas did actually do some shooting on it... He used his swimming pool to shoot the sequence on Dagobah in the mud pool and he shot it himself. I'm a bigger Star Wars geek than you may think. 😄
Originally posted by DiamondBullets
What other movies?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center_in_film_and_media#Movies
Originally posted by Mišt
Agreed, preysin is deluded to the point where he thinks AOTC is a good movie.[QUOTE=6064513]Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
[B]Don't even try to talk any sense into this guy. Seriously, he's deluded.
both of you stfu at least im a real star wars fan not like you two. like i said lucas makes quality films. spielberg is more commercial. and howard the duck is a comedy. if you don now that then you dont understand funny comdey.