i don't understand how Venom, Carnage, and Toxin will take out juggernaut and hulk. Hulk thunderclaps and knocks out Toxin and Venom. Then juggernaut and Hulk team up on Carnage. Juggernaut has stalemated Thor on numerous occasions. Hulk has healed from a near-skeletal state. Two punches and Venom is dead.
Originally posted by grey fox
Only sun dipped , but thats beside the point. Official sources state that venom can only lift 25-30 until i see otherwise then it's Official.
Official source says he can lift 11 tonnes. Hell even before upgrate Spider-man was able to lift more then 11 if pushed himself.
Originally posted by Darth Kal-El
i don't understand how Venom, Carnage, and Toxin will take out juggernaut and hulk. Hulk thunderclaps and knocks out Toxin and Venom. Then juggernaut and Hulk team up on Carnage. Juggernaut has stalemated Thor on numerous occasions. Hulk has healed from a near-skeletal state. Two punches and Venom is dead.
May i ask you why you knocked out Venom and Toxin first? What's so special about Carnage? And I admitted few pages ago that Hulk can win with his sonic clap, we are now discussing how they would fight without this Clap.
Originally posted by Darth Kal-El
and a guy w/symbiote able to lift 25-30 tons with all of spider-man's abilities is gonna defeat a guy who is indestructable and can lift over 100 tons and a guy who can heal quicker than wolverine and gets stronger each time he gets angrier how?
Not 25! 50!
IF guy with Spider-man abilities and without symbiot defeated hulk( i mean Parker), then guy with the same abilities and with symbiot could do it either.
Originally posted by samishe
Not 25! 50!
IF guy with Spider-man abilities and without symbiot defeated hulk( i mean Parker), then guy with the same abilities and with symbiot could do it either.
No spidey only just beat hulk* and ended up only dazing him !!
*Spidey only ended up beating hulk because of his superb agility and dodging capabilities.
Spider-Man usually beats the Hulk by dodging him and outsmarting him. Venom doesn't fight that way, he goes insane and tries to eat brains or whatever. He's more of an in-your-face fighter, thats why he loses to Peter and why he'll lose in this fight. Carnage is insane and would try the same thing and would probably laugh insanely the whole time while Juggernaut rips him in half a la Sentry. Toxin, when he lets himself go, also gets all in your face. But the fact that he's stronger than Venom and Carnage combined might have him lasting a bit longer. He still goes down though
Originally posted by marvelprince
Spider-Man usually beats the Hulk by dodging him and outsmarting him. Venom doesn't fight that way, he goes insane and tries to eat brains or whatever. He's more of an in-your-face fighter, thats why he loses to Peter and why he'll lose in this fight. Carnage is insane and would try the same thing and would probably laugh insanely the whole time while Juggernaut rips him in half a la Sentry. Toxin, when he lets himself go, also gets all in your face. But the fact that he's stronger than Venom and Carnage combined might have him lasting a bit longer. He still goes down though
He isn't stronger than Venom and Carnage combined. Together they owned him easily.