Originally posted by Mordum
War Hulk stoped a full motion juggernaut with ease.
That was Hulk with celestial enhancements. Without it, Juggernaut would've pushed him around forever. No PHYSICAL for has been proven to stop the Juggernaut. Only Celetial tech and Thors magic. Superman pulling on the rope is physical. Juggernaut having the rope tied around his waist and walking in the other direction would win. I don't care how hard Superman tugged on the other end.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That was Hulk with celestial enhancements. Without it, Juggernaut would've pushed him around forever. No PHYSICAL for has been proven to stop the Juggernaut. Only Celetial tech and Thors magic. Superman pulling on the rope is physical. Juggernaut having the rope tied around his waist and walking in the other direction would win. I don't care how hard Superman tugged on the other end.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That was Hulk with celestial enhancements. Without it, Juggernaut would've pushed him around forever. No PHYSICAL for has been proven to stop the Juggernaut. Only Celetial tech and Thors magic. Superman pulling on the rope is physical. Juggernaut having the rope tied around his waist and walking in the other direction would win. I don't care how hard Superman tugged on the other end.
Originally posted by IceMan2008
Pre Crisis Supes isn't WarHUlk.
Please don't tell me you are in the slightest stating that WarHulk is stronger/more powerful/more potent/mightier/etc than pre-Crisis Superman.
Because if you are then ......wow ....that would be like comparing a Goliath Beetle (WarHulk) with an out of control Locomotive (PC Superman).
Anyways, on the thread: The question basically boils down to Cyttorak and the 'gift' he bestowed on Marko. Think of Cyttorak's offer to Marko of the power of being his exemplar as a super-powerful engine, more powerful than any other engine around. It has such significant torque and overwhelming horsepower, that the engine can basically tow anything.
Now, take PC Superman as another engine that just came .....more powerful than anything that the first engine (the Marko-Cyttorak engine) has even encountered.
IF the second engine (the Superman engine) is more powerful than the Marko-Cyttorak one, then Juggernaut loses. If it is less powerful then Juggernaut wins. If they are equal they basically spin wheels until the juice runs out, and in each of their cases it will either take the Sun dying (think a number of eons), or an Elder God (Cyttorak) losing his power or dying (and if gods do die, I would assume we are talking a good number of eons as well).
Cyttorak is not omni-potent .....although for most characters he might as well be since he is exceedingly powerful.
PC Superman is not omni-potent .....although DC did everything but sell the family silver in their bid to make him almost that, and feat wise he has some of the craziest (and in many ways sillier) feats this side of Elaine Belloc after reading a comic with Mxy in it.
Both bring a lot to the table.
Although if i had to bet money, I would have the slightest advantage on Superman.
Why?
Because even if pre-Crisis Superman did not pull Juggernaut back, Juggernaut would definitely not be pulling PC Superman forward.
And while that looks like a tie, it is not .....because PC Supes basically made the Juggernaut, who is supposed to be unstoppable, not even move.
I don't think Superman would win, but he also would not lose. Meaning that Juggernaut would be pulling, but not moving. Which dents his rep as the 'juggernaut.'
Although knowing PC Superman, there is a chance he might just yank on the 'indestructible rope' and toss Juggernaut, with ease, across the cosmos with such velocity that Cyttorak himself pops out of the dimension he resides in to see who just made a b!tch of his exemplar! It is pre-Crisis Superman after all, and pwning the unpwnabble is what he does.
Holy! ... I didn't even remember making this thread, cool.
It appears the "black hole" was a boom tube-whatever,
see what happens when you take material from "respect threads"
without reviewing the claim yourself,
we all learn as we go, so take heed kiddies. 🙂
Anywho ...
Originally posted by spetznaz
Please don't tell me you are in the slightest stating that WarHulk is stronger/more powerful/more potent/mightier/etc than pre-Crisis Superman.Because if you are then ......wow ....that would be like comparing a Goliath Beetle (WarHulk) with an out of control Locomotive (PC Superman).
Anyways, on the thread: The question basically boils down to Cyttorak and the 'gift' he bestowed on Marko. Think of Cyttorak's offer to Marko of the power of being his exemplar as a super-powerful engine, more powerful than any other engine around. It has such significant torque and overwhelming horsepower, that the engine can basically tow anything.
Now, take PC Superman as another engine that just came .....more powerful than anything that the first engine (the Marko-Cyttorak engine) has even encountered.
IF the second engine (the Superman engine) is more powerful than the Marko-Cyttorak one, then Juggernaut loses. If it is less powerful then Juggernaut wins. If they are equal they basically spin wheels until the juice runs out, and in each of their cases it will either take the Sun dying (think a number of eons), or an Elder God (Cyttorak) losing his power or dying (and if gods do die, I would assume we are talking a good number of eons as well).Cyttorak is not omni-potent .....although for most characters he might as well be since he is exceedingly powerful.
PC Superman is not omni-potent .....although DC did everything but sell the family silver in their bid to make him almost that, and feat wise he has some of the craziest (and in many ways sillier) feats this side of Elaine Belloc after reading a comic with Mxy in it.Both bring a lot to the table.
Although if i had to bet money, I would have the slightest advantage on Superman.
Why?
Because even if pre-Crisis Superman did not pull Juggernaut back, Juggernaut would definitely not be pulling PC Superman forward.
And while that looks like a tie, it is not .....because PC Supes basically made the Juggernaut, who is supposed to be unstoppable, not even move.I don't think Superman would win, but he also would not lose. Meaning that Juggernaut would be pulling, but not moving. Which dents his rep as the 'juggernaut.'
Although knowing PC Superman, there is a chance he might just yank on the 'indestructible rope' and toss Juggernaut, with ease, across the cosmos with such velocity that Cyttorak himself pops out of the dimension he resides in to see who just made a b!tch of his exemplar! It is pre-Crisis Superman after all, and pwning the unpwnabble is what he does.
On the other hand, here are 10 things that can stop the Juggernaut:
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Originally posted by vlaaad12345
Except ya know wwh stopped juggernaut,pre crisis superman would easily overpower cyttoraks enchanctment,precrisis supermans strength>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>warhulk or wwh.
WWH stopped Juggernaut? No he didn't. How can you stop something that wasn't even moving? Try again.
