Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.Every animal has free will. Except domesticated and those that are in zoos.
Any animal can play when they want and look for food when they feel like it and shit where they please. Sounds like free will to me.
and besides, flying, or chasing down prey to tear apart with gigantic claws sure sounds boring 🙄
Surly the fool can not call someone a fool, just like the wise can not call some wise. However, surly you can not be as foolish to think that humans are not set apart from animals.
Think of it this way. Deprive a true, loyal soldier of food and water for several days so you can get necessary information out of him, and he can still choose to die of hunger. However you can not apply the scenario to an animal. Deprive him of his necessities and he will always choose life. Because it has a very basic standard: Eat to live, live to die.
An animal plays not when it wants, only during the day with other of it's kind. Why? To merely learn the ways of the wild. They search for food, only when they're hungry, never for anything more. No more can they choose to store food, than can they make a shopping list from which to use at their neighborly Kroger's. As for the crapping statement, discreetness is more of a sign of free will.
Yeah I mean that sure does beat hanging out with friends, playing on a game counsel, reading a book, racing, sky diving, sex, etc...🙄
Originally posted by AOR
Surly the fool can not call someone a fool, just like the wise can not call some wise. However, surly you can not be as foolish to think that humans are not set apart from animals.Think of it this way. Deprive a true, loyal soldier of food and water for several days so you can get necessary information out of him, and he can still choose to die of hunger. However you can not apply the scenario to an animal. Deprive him of his necessities and he will always choose life. Because it has a very basic standard: Eat to live, live to die.
An animal plays not when it wants, only during the day with other of it's kind. Why? To merely learn the ways of the wild. They search for food, only when they're hungry, never for anything more. No more can they choose to store food, than can they make a shopping list from which to use at their neighborly Kroger's. As for the crapping statement, discreetness is more of a sign of free will.
Yeah I mean that sure does beat hanging out with friends, playing on a game counsel, reading a book, racing, sky diving, sex, etc...🙄
A couple of things wrong with this. I'll let that slick little comment about me being a fool slide.
Humans ARE animals, albeit with much larger more efficient brains. What sets us apart is philosophy, that age old question "Why are we here?". The ability to even ask that question sets us apart, but by no means makes us better. Hell, the only other species in the world besides humans that even has the concept of wars is ants.
I didn't realize animals could talk to humans to give out necessary information. My bad. I'll go interrogate the nearest dog, maybe he'll tell me something useful about a terrorist organisation.
That 'eat to live, live to die' sentiment is a little too basic. So how much biology have you researched recently? In the wild, the continuation of the species is the point of living. Animals have emotions just like humans. Don't other mammals and birds take care of their young?
Next, nearly all animals in the wild are natural enemies. Of course they would stay with their 'own kind'. Don't you play with other human beings? When was the last time you had the urge to play catch with a bear? Yet also in the wild, you see birds sitting comfortably inside an alligator's mouth, feeding happily on scraps in their teeth. And contrary to the 'storing food' statement, squirells, racoons, birds, and mice store food outside of their bodies. Bears, snakes, camels, and other species store food inside of their body.
Yea, last time i checked, flying and hunting with bare claws did beat playing on a game counsel and reading a book(incidentally, entire books are written on the very subject of what it would be like to be a wild animal) and also, animals have just as much, if not more sex than humans do. Male lions have sex every 15 minutes during their mating season.