Genis Vell vs Superman

Started by marvelprince5 pages
Originally posted by Juntai
He can move faster than Superman? Lets see it. Superman moves lightspeed multiples.

Superman moves at lightspeed multiples? As in several times faster than lightspeed? Do you have any scans at that? Genis has been documented to move at warp speeds, plus he has the teleportation ability. With his teleportation coupled with his cosmic awareness he doesn't really need to be fast at all do he?

Originally posted by The Ion
No thats not what happened. There's no evidence that Sentry was beaten because all his energy had been drained by Genis. Your interpretation isn't canon and neither is mine for that matter.

I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't too clear on that. All I meant to point out was that Genis has been shown to shunt infinite amounts of energy and that Sentry has been shown, due to his control over light, able to absorb infinite amounts of energy. Not saying thats why anyone won or lost

Genis Vell would take out Superman. Superman is good, real good but Genis Vell is better.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Superman moves at lightspeed multiples? As in several times faster than lightspeed? Do you have any scans at that? Genis has been documented to move at warp speeds, plus he has the teleportation ability. With his teleportation coupled with his cosmic awareness he doesn't really need to be fast at all do he?
Saturn to Earth, is nearly 10 times the distance from Sun to Earth [93 million miles].

Sun to Earth takes light 8 minutes and handful of seconds.

Superman moved Earth to Saturn and single shotted a moon, in 'approximately 4 minutes' ...which is half the time it takes light to go 93 million miles from Sun to Earth. Meaning he was moving between 15-20 times lightspeed. Give or take a little.

In Sacrifice, while under Max Lords power and fighting against Wonder Woman, he moved from Earth to the sun and back, in under 2 minutes. A little over 16 times lightspeed. [Max was timing the fight, and a bit after they made it back, he said "1 minute and 58 seconds from start to finish..."

Now its your turn to show.
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Oh right I do remember those. Thanx. I don't have any feats to demonstrate Genis' speed so I guess i'll have to concede the speed to Superman. But I don't think it'll help him much in this fight though

Originally posted by marvelprince
I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't too clear on that. All I meant to point out was that Genis has been shown to shunt infinite amounts of energy and that Sentry has been shown, due to his control over light, able to absorb infinite amounts of energy. Not saying thats why anyone won or lost

My bad. I misunderstood your post. 🙁

Genis had to teleport Sentry away, it was a ring out. Sentry was about to cut lose with his full power so Genis took that as his cue for battlefield removal.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Oh right I do remember those. Thanx. I don't have any feats to demonstrate Genis' speed so I guess i'll have to concede the speed to Superman. But I don't think it'll help him much in this fight though
Could Genis survive what happened there? A 15x plus lightspeed one shot a moon- punch?

Conceeding Superman's vast speed difference, and given that's how he wins a lot of his fights, pretty much proves Supes with gather some wins in a straight up confrontation.

Originally posted by The Ion
My bad. I misunderstood your post. 🙁

Lol, np. It happens.

And here is a Genis speed feat. Shows how with his control of time and space he is able to transcend physical speed. That is warp speed, bending time and space itself to move.

http://img315.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captainmarveliv04p156sw.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
Could Genis survive what happened there? A 15x plus lightspeed one shot a moon- punch?

Conceeding Superman's vast speed difference, and given that's how he wins a lot of his fights, pretty much proves Supes with gather some wins in a straight up confrontation.

He may not survive something like that, but given his warp speed and cosmic awareness good thing he doesn't have to worry about that

Originally posted by marvelprince
He may not survive something like that, but given his warp speed and cosmic awareness good thing he doesn't have to worry about that
Eh, that scan didn't show anything but a group of people hypothesising. No static information.

Superman bends time/space too.

Those people weren't just hypothezing. They were aware of the extent of Genis's powers and were simply wondering whether or not he had the capacity to use them to their extent. This is already established canon on how he moves.

And for Superman to bend space/time requires him to accelerate to that point. Warp speed is under Genis' power, like heat vision is for Superman. Can Superman attain warp speed. No doubt, but he has to build up to that speed since its not within the normal scope of his abilites. Genis starts off at warp speed, and since this is not a race but a fight I doubt Superman will get the opportunity to reach warp speed

Originally posted by marvelprince
Those people weren't just hypothezing. They were aware of the extent of Genis's powers and were simply wondering whether or not he had the capacity to use them to their extent. This is already established canon on how he moves.

And for Superman to bend space/time requires him to accelerate to that point. Warp speed is under Genis' power, like heat vision is for Superman. Can Superman attain warp speed. No doubt, but he has to build up to that speed since its not within the normal scope of his abilites. Genis starts off at warp speed, and since this is not a race but a fight I doubt Superman will get the opportunity to reach warp speed

It's near instant for Superman to reach such speeds. That's how he can make it to the sun and back WHILE FIGHTING, in under two minutes. Wonder Woman, who's fast enough to go blow for blow with speedforcers was unable to react to Superman's initial blitz.

And it MAY be canon that that's how he travels, but that was just people hypothesising if he could do it or not and doesn't prove much of anything. In your first sentence, you denied that, then in the following agreed with it. It also doesn't prove to any extent how fast he travels in that mode.

I'm not saying Superman will gather every win, Genis is just too versatile for him. One miscalculation however, and it's lights out.

Originally posted by Juntai
It's near instant for Superman to reach such speeds. That's how he can make it to the sun and back WHILE FIGHTING, in under two minutes. Wonder Woman, who's fast enough to go blow for blow with speedforcers was unable to react to Superman's initial blitz.

And it MAY be canon that that's how he travels, but that was just people hypothesising if he could do it or not and doesn't prove much of anything. In your first sentence, you denied that, then in the following agreed with it. It also doesn't prove to any extent how fast he travels in that mode.

I'm not saying Superman will gather every win, Genis is just too versatile for him. One miscalculation however, and it's lights out.

In my sentence I said responding to your claim that they were simply hypothezing about the extent of his powers. I refuted that claim with my first sentence and then went on to explain that they were speculating, but as to whether or not he could use his powers in the way described. There was no doubt to the Shi'ar that Genis had the capability to do what they described, they were speculating as to whether or not thats what he would do. Hope I made it clear that time.

Agree with basically everything you said. This is by means an easy fight for Genis and if he slips up its over

Originally posted by marvelprince
Those people weren't just hypothezing. They were aware of the extent of Genis's powers and were simply wondering whether or not he had the capacity to use them to their extent. This is already established canon on how he moves.

And for Superman to bend space/time requires him to accelerate to that point. Warp speed is under Genis' power, like heat vision is for Superman. Can Superman attain warp speed. No doubt, but he has to build up to that speed since its not within the normal scope of his abilites. Genis starts off at warp speed, and since this is not a race but a fight I doubt Superman will get the opportunity to reach warp speed

Here is a clearer pic of Supes hitting warp speed.

It didn't take him long at all to do it.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SupesWarpin.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
He can move faster than Superman? Lets see it. Superman moves lightspeed multiples.

Huh? Genis has gone back and forth through time.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Huh? Genis has gone back and forth through time.
With his speed or teleporting?

Been Done🙂

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=367708&highlight=Genis+Superman

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Been Done🙂

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=367708&highlight=Genis+Superman

LOL so what that one is outdated it needed rehashing with new minds and fresh outlook with new appearances 😛

Originally posted by snoopdogg
With his speed or teleporting?

Just part of his powers. He can open holes in space and time.

http://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newthunderbolts018page086zx.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newthunderbolts018page096tk.jpg