Originally posted by Sixth_WingedBecause he's connected to all marine life, it means he can control all marine life. It also gives him a greater affect on the marine parts of the brain in tother beings that've evolved from marine life. Humans, martians etc.
So Clear doesn't have anything it can do offensively? It doesn't look much cept some sort of depowered cosmic awareness.
And i just remembered the Clear being used recently. Though it's not said to be the actual clear. It's the same ability.
1. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9778/aquamanv618169gq.jpg
2. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3986/aquamanv618176zw.jpg
3. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1831/aquamanv618188ar.jpg
Originally posted by soleran30How is it anymore or less of a plot device than the speed force? Or a Green Lantern Ring? Or the power cosmic?
Nope I have and I also said that without the Hand its a CURBSTOMP!That hand is just PIS all over the place...................
Originally posted by soleran30I agree that without the hand, Aquaman would lose the majority of times. Would he be easily defeated? Not at all.
AM by himself or with 2 normal hands or his harpoon would be destroyed.
Most of the cases of Aquaman going up against high Class 100 people, he didn't have the hand or didn't use it in the least.
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
How is it anymore or less of a plot device than the speed force? Or a Green Lantern Ring? Or the power cosmic?I agree that without the hand, Aquaman would lose the majority of times. Would he be easily defeated? Not at all.
Most of the cases of Aquaman going up against high Class 100 people, he didn't have the hand or didn't use it in the least.
Its not its just they needed to get fish boy more showtime so they had to give him a water hand so he can be outta the water now and boost his TP and etc etc etc
Anyone that thinks arthur is quicker more agile then this guy in the clip is crazy🙂
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/8161/spiderspeed6uy.jpg
even with the Hand its not a win for arthur anyway it just means he has a better chance.
Hulk can sense all magical things not just astral
Originally posted by soleran30So you think Aquaman is the only character ever to be upgraded downgraded and all round graded? Almost every single super hero character has had power upgrades or downgrades. You make it sound like Aquaman's the only one.
Its not its just they needed to get fish boy more showtime so they had to give him a water hand so he can be outta the water now and boost his TP and etc etc etc
Originally posted by soleran30More agile? No. Quicker? Yes. At the very least he's on par with Spidey. And that's being generous to Spidey.
Anyone that thinks arthur is quicker more agile then this guy in the clip is crazy🙂
And that hit, did it knock Spidey out? Do you think that would knock Aquaman out?
Originally posted by soleran30Ok. So Hulk is going to sense magic. From the start of the fight, he'll sense it on Aquaman. Aquaman will turn his hand into a puddle, and send it to grab hold of Hulk. Hulk will sense the puddle. And then what. He'll start trying to beat up some water? Yeah, that'll work. Hulk will sense thehand is attached to him (which once it is it starts de-mutating him back into Banner), and then what? Hulk smash? He'll start punching it? Yeah, that'll work.
even with the Hand its not a win for arthur anyway it just means he has a better chance.Hulk can sense all magical things not just astral
Originally posted by soleran30
Its not its just they needed to get fish boy more showtime so they had to give him a water hand so he can be outta the water now and boost his TP and etc etc etcAnyone that thinks arthur is quicker more agile then this guy in the clip is crazy🙂
http://img19.exs.cx/img19/8161/spiderspeed6uy.jpg
even with the Hand its not a win for arthur anyway it just means he has a better chance.
Hulk can sense all magical things not just astral
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HULK dunks AM's head in a bowl of tartar sauce and has a quick bite to eat... and uses the hand as a waterpick to clean his teeth.
HULK 11/10
Has that hand ever demutate someone he isn't actually touching..............I am thinking probably not since it does take concentrion from AM.
Then again one of these will certainly lift up AM and give Hulk time to smoosh him. That hand weighs what 1lb so its blown so far away from hulk its a nonissue.
http://img226.echo.cx/img226/3624/shockwavethunderclap078zz.jpg
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Because he's connected to all marine life, it means he can control all marine life. It also gives him a greater affect on the marine parts of the brain in tother beings that've evolved from marine life. Humans, martians etc.And i just remembered the Clear being used recently. Though it's not said to be the actual clear. It's the same ability.
1. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9778/aquamanv618169gq.jpg
2. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3986/aquamanv618176zw.jpg
3. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1831/aquamanv618188ar.jpg
Uhmmm.....ok. Isn't that basically fish tp(in fact, i already stated the part about the *edited* basal ganglia, which aquaman claimed a primitive part of a brain more susceptible to his control). Anything offensive it can do?
Originally posted by soleran30
Has that hand ever demutate someone he isn't actually touching..............I am thinking probably not since it does take concentrion from AM.
1. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7198/aquamanwaterhandabilities030nz.jpg
2. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3569/aquamanwaterhandabilities046yc.jpg
He can manipulate the hand without it being in contact with him.
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedYou mean like this...
Uhmmm.....ok. Isn't that basically fish tp(in fact, i already stated the part about the medula oblongata, which aquaman claimed a primitive part of a brain more susceptible to his control). Anything offensive it can do?
1. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2841/go2017tn.jpg
2. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7430/go2028cn.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
1. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7198/aquamanwaterhandabilities030nz.jpg
2. http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3569/aquamanwaterhandabilities046yc.jpgHe can manipulate the hand without it being in contact with him.
No I realize that however more specifically I wanted to know if he has demutated anyone while controlling the hand remotely............
and it wouldn't matter anyhows🙂 One thunderclap and if that hand isn't attached to AM its gonna be flying miles away from AM.
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
You mean like this...1. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2841/go2017tn.jpg
2. http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7430/go2028cn.jpg
ok, i already stated that a while ago knowledge(though i was wrong about that brain part being the medula) of his showings with the white martian, anything else?
Originally posted by King_MungiAnd he was manipulating it while his mind was at the bottom of the ocean thousand of miles away in the body of a fish that had been eaten and was being digested.
He can manipulate the hand without it being in contact with him.
If ever there's a time it'd be hard to concentrate, that'd be it.
Originally posted by Sixth_WingedOffensive wise, that the only showing i recall. There are many other showings of him probing humans mind, claming them, creating mind blocks.
ok, i already stated that a while ago knowledge(though i was wrong about that brain part being the medula) of his showings with the white martian, anything else?
Whit Martians are TP users on the level of the Martian Manhunter, yet Aquaman still affected him because his TP works in a different way.
Hulk has resisted conventional telepathy. Has her ever gone up against TP that works solely through the parts of the brain inherited by marine ancestors?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
From what I recall...no, does that mean he can't? far from it.
just means more work for AM...........anyway one thunderclap and its a moot point anyway the hand is gone if its unattached.
How many people in Marvel have TP that works that way? No but he has resisted the some of the greatest TP folks in Marvel and I would put them a step above AM regardless of the mechanism AM's TP works.
AM just doesn't have what it takes to put Hulk down consistently............however Hulk can throw down on AM all day long.
Originally posted by soleran30So you have nothing in terms of Hulk resisting telepathy that works the way Aquaman does.
How many people in Marvel have TP that works that way? No but he has resisted the some of the greatest TP folks in Marvel and I would put them a step above AM regardless of the mechanism AM's TP works.
I have Aquaman affecting a TP user on the level of Martian Manhunter who would no doubt have TP blocks up to stop TP attack, yet Aquaman still takes him out like nothing.
Obviously we have nothing conclusive about whether or not Aquaman's TP would affect him or not. But based on what we do have, Aquaman is mkjore likely to be able to induce a seizure on Hulk than not. IMO
Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Offensive wise, that the only showing i recall. There are many other showings of him probing humans mind, claming them, creating mind blocks.Whit Martians are TP users on the level of the Martian Manhunter, yet Aquaman still affected him because his TP works in a different way.
Hulk has resisted conventional telepathy. Has her ever gone up against TP that works solely through the parts of the brain inherited by marine ancestors?
There was a control helm once that targeted parts of his brain. He has also shrugged most tp attacks even magical.
