Originally posted by Spideys Sister
That was a lame scene and makes no sense unless u recall Harry yelled after him not to hurt Peter. Maybe Doc didn't hear that part...the rest adds up to unrational thinking and Doc being just plain looney.
There was nothing wrong with that.
Like Ock would give a damn about hurting Peter.
Originally posted by Spideys Sister
That was a lame scene and makes no sense unless u recall Harry yelled after him not to hurt Peter. Maybe Doc didn't hear that part...the rest adds up to unrational thinking and Doc being just plain looney.
The man said he was being controlled by metal arms which, for all intents and purposes, would've been fried the same way the chip that stopped their "brain"waves from affecting his.
You really think he cares if someone dies?
Like Ock would give a damn about hurting Peter.
What I want for Spider-man 4(possibly 3, who knows? At least the end):
Doc Ock pulls himself onto a beach, complains about Spider-man leaving him to die. Can't remember who Spider-man is due to trauma, and doesn't remember anything about the tentacles being "in control", etc. Make it a real, EVIL Doc Ock. Not "poor guy" but the real Doctor Octopus we all love.
Originally posted by DBZ MAN
Except this was a different Doc Ock.
I agree, this Doc Ock, is not a killer...he was crazy but he was still a scientist. He stole money for it and put people's lifes on stake for it, but he never really intended to kill someone for it except for spider-man who stood in his way.
Originally posted by Doc Ock
Well he did throw a car thru a cafe window.It was sheer luck nobody was killed by that.He tossed people off the train,a couple of people went flying thru the train windows when he shoved them aside to get to Spider-Man.Killing really didn't bother him.
I still don't agree...he tossed people out of the train to keep spider-man busy, cause he knew he would rescue them...like I said he put life's at stake for his own purpose but he didn't intend to kill anyone...cause everytime he tossed someone like aunt may, he knew spider-man would keep himself busy saving them so he could escape or catch him offguard in the train sequence.
Originally posted by Cascador
I still don't agree...he tossed people out of the train to keep spider-man busy, cause he knew he would rescue them...like I said he put life's at stake for his own purpose but he didn't intend to kill anyone...cause everytime he tossed someone like aunt may, he knew spider-man would keep himself busy saving them so he could escape or catch him offguard in the train sequence.
You're still ignoring facts like the fact he thru a car thru a window of a cafe full of people.Or when he tossed the huge safe door in Aunt May and Peter's direction.
He may not have been TRYING to kill,but he certainly had no regard for people's lives.
Originally posted by Doc Ock
You're still ignoring facts like the fact he thru a car thru a window of a cafe full of people.Or when he tossed the huge safe door in Aunt May and Peter's direction.He may not have been TRYING to kill,but he certainly had no regard for people's lives.
No I didn't ignore it...I said he is a scientist and that he put lifes at stake for it...those were my exact words...like I said he may be reckless and dangerous, but that does not make him a killer.
Originally posted by Cascador
No I didn't ignore it...I said he is a scientist and that he put lifes at stake for it...those were my exact words...like I said he may be reckless and dangerous, but that does not make him a killer.
So if I throw a car into a shop full of people,I'm not a killer??
Mmmmmkay.
I hope you never get jury duty for a murder trial 😉
i think the only person Ock INTENDED to kill is...Spider-man. His tentacles, however, seemed intent on killing the doctors in the hospital scene...but you can argue that they did that to protect Ock. And he did try to drop Harry off his balcony as well.
If movie Ock was modeled after the 90s animated series Ock, i think we'd gotten a different personality from him. More diabolical maniac like Norman was in the first movie.
Originally posted by Cascador
you cant call that café full of people....you barely notice anybody in that café....I think you would see persons killed or at least wounded if it was packed with persons...but it looked like only Peter and MJ were gonna get hit...which was the subject of this topic in the first place
LOL! Oh come on dude you're clutching at straws now.You could see people,waitresses,even a cook in there when Ock arrived to threaten Peter.
What do you think he did,walked up and peered in the window to make sure the coast was clear before he threw that car?? 😉
he was aiming at peter and mj that's for sure...and did other people get hurt? I didnt see anyone get hurt...so maybe doc ock is better at aiming than you think
you just want him to be a killer cause he would be more like the doc ock in the comics...the doc ock who doesn't care if anyone gets killed, on the contrary
Originally posted by Cascador
he was aiming at peter and mj that's for sure...and did other people get hurt? I didnt see anyone get hurt...so maybe doc ock is better at aiming than you think
He was aiming at Peter and MJ?? So he was trying to kill them??
If he was aiming at Peter and MJ then shouldn't it have hit their table rather than landing at the back of the cafe?? It was a car.Not a bicycle.It was as big as the damn window it came thru.
And nobody got hurt because Raimi is not going to show mangled car wreck bodies in a kid's movie.
you just want him to be a killer cause he would be more like the doc ock in the comics
I think this 🙄 is the best response to that remark.