Prove to me their's a god that your religion is true.

Started by Lord Urizen23 pages

Originally posted by FeceMan
Christianity does give evidence in order to prove itself and thus inspire belief.

On the other hand, the belief opens one's eyes to the evidence.

Evidense like ..... ?

evidence the believers can see and non believers cant, just like the things you see and experience listening to Dark Side of The moon after a couple of joints, to sse you need to be soooooooooooooo far out there man

😂

Are ya listening to that now???

huh? what? oh man far out dude..........
You rearrange me til I'm sane.
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me
PF

hahahaha.............always wondered who was in the person head then..........LOL

Multiple......hmmmmmmmm.....lol

Originally posted by Alliance
thats where its WRONG.

Evidence is not seen through a point of view. Evidence is observed, then the concept is formed.


I mean no offense, but you are blind to any evidence. You could not see even if you were to try.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Evidense like ..... ?

Ask for your eyes to be opened and see for yourself.

muslimscholar, please avoid the use of capital letters in all or part of your posts, except where capitalisation of a single word gives an appropriate emphasis or where used as a heading to a paragraph of text to make for easier reading and improved comprehension.

Keep yourself calm no matter what. You can accomplish much more by civil discourse.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I mean no offense, but you are blind to any evidence. You could not see even if you were to try.

Please. I don't care about you're rhetoric. You haven't make points, so stop pretending like you did.

I think I know why sithsaber said angels are fact and evolution is not. His defenition of fact is something humans experience, and he was taught people don't experience evolution. That's a good philosophy, but no where near scientific.

That philosophy is nowhere near logic. That's his problem.

People "experience" stuff all the time. People have hallucinations, hear people at the door, etc, etc. Truth is defined by common experience, not personal "I feels." Feelings are relative.

If only your post was a second paragraph on my post.

Originally posted by Alliance
That philosophy is nowhere near logic. That's his problem.

People "experience" stuff all the time. People have hallucinations, hear people at the door, etc, etc. Truth is defined by common experience, not personal "I feels." Feelings are relative.

Another problem is that he experiences evolution daily. He must see others, and must recognize that if two parents have red hair their offspring will also have red hair. He must recognize that purebred animals are directed breeding of specific attributes, a man directed micro evolution. If micro changes can occur, it is obvious that given time, fecundity and variability macro evolution is entirely plausible and probable.

Originally posted by Regret
Another problem is that he experiences evolution daily. He must see others, and must recognize that if two parents have red hair their offspring will also have red hair. He must recognize that purebred animals are directed breeding of specific attributes, a man directed micro evolution. If micro changes can occur, it is obvious that given time, fecundity and variability macro evolution is entirely plausible and probable.
Yes, but a creationists view of evolution is this:

Micro: Two dogs say bulldog and alsation will create a poodle
Macro: Two dogs will create a giraffe.

Science has shown that both are impossible, but Science has also shown how micro and macro evolution are not only completely different to that, they are possible, and even observable.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes, but a creationists view of evolution is this:

Micro: Two dogs say bulldog and alsation will create a poodle
Macro: Two dogs will create a giraffe.

Science has shown that both are impossible, but they have shown how micro and macro evolution are not only completely different to that, they are possible, and even observable.

The creationist's view that you demonstrated is erroneous. It oversimplifies and exaggerates the impact of immediate change. But, yes, I understand what you are stating.

Regardless of a creation, macro evolution could have occurred following this creation, or even been an integral process in creation. Also, I am creationist and evolutionist, if such are correct terms.

Originally posted by Regret
Also, I am creationist and evolutionist, if such are correct terms.
How so?

Originally posted by lord xyz
How so?
Evolution is scientifically evident, it most probably occurred, a belief system then that denies evolution as a possible method of a creation is false. If a religion denies the validity of science, it is false. Evolution must be a part of the creation or the creation did not occur, these are the only two logical stances on the subject. Evolution can be directed, so a creator could have used evolution in the process, or it could also have been the process.

I do not think it could ever be proved in my opinion. It is what you "feel and "believe" not what has to happen to make you realise. Like my mom, she truly feels and knows that it is real, but then another person might not, admittedly i cannot blame them though. But i think people do generally have to feel something to know if it is real or not and i believe my moms sister actually saw a spirit once.

Originally posted by Regret
Evolution is scientifically evident, it most probably occurred, a belief system then that denies evolution as a possible method of a creation is false. If a religion denies the validity of science, it is false. Evolution must be a part of the creation or the creation did not occur, these are the only two logical stances on the subject. Evolution can be directed, so a creator could have used evolution in the process, or it could also have been the process.
Not necessarily, but I understand what you're getting at.

Its the "science is the way to understand god's creation" stance.

Originally posted by Storm
muslimscholar, please avoid the use of capital letters in all or part of your posts, except where capitalisation of a single word gives an appropriate emphasis or where used as a heading to a paragraph of text to make for easier reading and improved comprehension.

Keep yourself calm no matter what. You can accomplish much more by civil discourse.

No he can't. I made him CRACK 😆