Iceman vs. Aquaman

also iceman wont kill at least iv never seen him do it

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hey, I like your sig and your small picture on the left, man. I, too, am a giant fan of all characters superfast.

Flash, Quicksilver (my favorite X-men character, by the way), and Sonic all rule hard.

Rock on. 🤘

woooot

Personally I think IceMan would win.

Now, Aquaman is a beast. He is probably one of the most underrated members of the JLA (primarily due to other members of the league being veritable gods - with the irony being that even though Aquaman's powersets are exceedingly formidable, they pale in comparison with those of the other members of the JLA. For instance, Aquaman has Superspeed .....but it is a joke compared to that of ANY of the other members, apart from Batman. He has super-strength, but it is ridiculous compared to that of any of the other members ....again, apart from batman. His durability goes under the same rules, as does his magical abilities, his reflexes, and his telepathy. All of his abilities are at top-tier level .....however his teammates operate ABOVE top-tier. Consequently his great telepathy seems weak compared to the Manhunters, his magic seems checked compared to Zatanna's, his speed is sloth next to WonderWoman's, his strength is pitiful next to Superman's, etc etc etc).

Thus Aquaman is good. In fact great.

However against IceMan it is an interesting match, and one that is against Aquaman for the most part.

Why?

Well, because Iceman can perform a one-move knockout. Flash freeze.

Now, Aquaman can also perform a one-shot hit ....primarily a telepathic assault. However the major thing to consider is how effective telepathy would be against Iceman in his frozen form. I'm not saying it wouldn't be, but telepathy traditionally has serious difficulties against characters who are either in other forms or are shapeshifters (eg tp is either largely ineffective against shapeshifters - in Marvel, for instance Mystique,.......or it is totally ineffective against shapeshifters - in DC, for instance Plasticman).
Now, IceMan is not a shifter .....but he is a morpher. In his ice form he is totally constituted of frozen water molecules.

Thus a standard TP attack shouldn't be as effective against him as it would be on, say, Batman.

Now, the magic hand.

That is a major wildcard, and in many ways. His hand is able to do many things (every time it is used a new ability apparently appears). Also at its worst it can lead to 'the Hunger,' a force of pure malevolence.

Oh ....guess what else. It can also turn back mutation.

However the key aspect here is if Aquaman would be able to use his hand before he is flashfrozen, and I honestly doubt that would happen.

Then there are the other attributes ....speed and strength. Aquaman is fast ....very (although again compared to Flash, Supes, MM, GL, WW he seems slow as molasses). He is also strong (he supported an entire block of buildings, which puts him at an EXTREMELY high strength level ....it is just that compared to people who can move moons, or have infinite mass punches, or can use their rings to augment their strength to near-infinite levels ....then his strength seems silly in comparison. But by itself it is amazing).

(Aside: I've always said that Aquaman, were he real, should resign from the DC universe and move over to the Marvel universe. There his abilities would be amazing ....particularly if he joined the X-men. However remaining in the JLA will always make him appear weak when he is actually very powerful)

Anyways, Aquaman has strength and speed going on for him. However I doubt he'd be able to use either on IceMan before Iceman froze him.

Finally ....if frozen, could Iceman free himself? Again his super strength comes into consideration here, as does his magical hand.

However both of those are debatable.

What is not is that Iceman would be using a flash-freeze the first instant the fight started (per KMC rules).

I'd say Iceman wins ....but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

Iceman 8/10

i think that IM wouldn't have that hard of a time putting AM down, but AM would reaaaally have a hard time putting IM down, not counting TP, and we're not even sure if that would work on IM....

and on the subject of the magic hand...doesn't it have to be touching the water to effect the density, and therefore control it?

Don't know if it's been mentioned but Iceman could pull all the water out of Aquman's body.

IIRC He did it in the arc where a demon was claiming to be Nightcrawler's father.

Could Iceman freeze AM's magic hand? 😕

Originally posted by spetznaz
Personally I think IceMan would win.

Now, Aquaman is a beast. He is probably one of the most underrated members of the JLA (primarily due to other members of the league being veritable gods - with the irony being that even though Aquaman's powersets are exceedingly formidable, they pale in comparison with those of the other members of the JLA. For instance, Aquaman has Superspeed .....but it is a joke compared to that of ANY of the other members, apart from Batman. He has super-strength, but it is ridiculous compared to that of any of the other members ....again, apart from batman. His durability goes under the same rules, as does his magical abilities, his reflexes, and his telepathy. All of his abilities are at top-tier level .....however his teammates operate ABOVE top-tier. Consequently his great telepathy seems weak compared to the Manhunters, his magic seems checked compared to Zatanna's, his speed is sloth next to WonderWoman's, his strength is pitiful next to Superman's, etc etc etc).

Thus Aquaman is good. In fact great.

However against IceMan it is an interesting match, and one that is against Aquaman for the most part.

Why?

Well, because Iceman can perform a one-move knockout. Flash freeze.

Now, Aquaman can also perform a one-shot hit ....primarily a telepathic assault. However the major thing to consider is how effective telepathy would be against Iceman in his frozen form. I'm not saying it wouldn't be, but telepathy traditionally has serious difficulties against characters who are either in other forms or are shapeshifters (eg tp is either largely ineffective against shapeshifters - in Marvel, for instance Mystique,.......or it is totally ineffective against shapeshifters - in DC, for instance Plasticman).
Now, IceMan is not a shifter .....but he is a morpher. In his ice form he is totally constituted of frozen water molecules.

Thus a standard TP attack shouldn't be as effective against him as it would be on, say, Batman.

Now, the magic hand.

That is a major wildcard, and in many ways. His hand is able to do many things (every time it is used a new ability apparently appears). Also at its worst it can lead to 'the Hunger,' a force of pure malevolence.

Oh ....guess what else. It can also turn back mutation.

However the key aspect here is if Aquaman would be able to use his hand before he is flashfrozen, and I honestly doubt that would happen.

Then there are the other attributes ....speed and strength. Aquaman is fast ....very (although again compared to Flash, Supes, MM, GL, WW he seems slow as molasses). He is also strong (he supported an entire block of buildings, which puts him at an EXTREMELY high strength level ....it is just that compared to people who can move moons, or have infinite mass punches, or can use their rings to augment their strength to near-infinite levels ....then his strength seems silly in comparison. But by itself it is amazing).

(Aside: I've always said that Aquaman, were he real, should resign from the DC universe and move over to the Marvel universe. There his abilities would be amazing ....particularly if he joined the X-men. However remaining in the JLA will always make him appear weak when he is actually very powerful)

Anyways, Aquaman has strength and speed going on for him. However I doubt he'd be able to use either on IceMan before Iceman froze him.

Finally ....if frozen, could Iceman free himself? Again his super strength comes into consideration here, as does his magical hand.

However both of those are debatable.

What is not is that Iceman would be using a flash-freeze the first instant the fight started (per KMC rules).

I'd say Iceman wins ....but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

very well put.

Originally posted by Galan007
Could Iceman freeze AM's magic hand? 😕

It's magic. So maybe not. Not sure.

There are other things he can do though.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's magic. So maybe not. Not sure.

There are other things he can do though.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah there is much more AM can do, but Iwas just curious if the magic hand could be frozen.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'd give the win to Iceman though... Aquaman's type of telepathy probably wouldn't work very well if at all on Iceman, while Iceman can just moisture invert Aquaman's head off ftw.

Iceman wins this 9/10.