Theory on Theories

Like I said previously:

I know of Byron and Hume's Idealism and Philosophy but even if those did not exist, one would sooner or later wonder and question themselves deeply.

This is why I posted the "Obvious" disclaimer on my introductory post.

It's a major part of Reality and one that hit me like of Tonne of (Standard, not Metric! 😛) Bricks.

This could get me into the mysteries of Death, which would lead to Suicide reasoning, then into Childhood Innocence and Reality Wake up calls and Famine and Wars....

The Theocracy could last an infinite and I could go on forever so don't get too deeply into it. You may lose yourself. 😛

We don't live by facts but guesses. That bites at me.

Why?

You know whats funny, you think we live by guesses but even thats just a theory thats not proven true, perhaps we don't. Perhaps what we see is real, perhaps you are one of the few that doesn't accept the truth, or perhaps not 😛

My advice stop worrying about it

Originally posted by Fishy
Why?

You know whats funny, you think we live by guesses but even thats just a theory thats not proven true, perhaps we don't. Perhaps what we see is real, perhaps you are one of the few that doesn't accept the truth, or perhaps not 😛

My advice stop worrying about it

Perhaps you don't except the truth that everything around you is all just what could be considered the closest guess or the nearest assumption.

Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Hmm....

I've been thinking about this for several years now and it's been bothering me horribly.

Everything exists as a Theory.

Think on it... Hard...

Is there truly anything that is "definete"?

Science is a Theory, Religon is a Theory...

Hell, Life and Death in itself is all a Theory.

I know it seems like I'm sounding a bit on the obvious side, but doesn't us not knowing the answers kind of suck?

Doesn't living by a bunch of assumptions and undefined answers suck?

It doesn´t matter if it is boring or not to live only by assumptions, but thats the only thing reason, scientific thought, and logic can do... only theories. And theories always need an base proposition or axiom that cannot be proved, but needs to be assumed to be true. Thats why I am inclined to believe that there must be an alternative way in which we could obtain true answers about our reality.

Theorys are just some people guessing at things, and because they have some ,poeple tend to respect and accept thier theory.

Take Einsteins theory of relativity, brilliant idea but proven wrong. Not many people know that.
Same goes for Evolution, there isn´t any evidence at all to prove that species gradually changed into something else, in fact the facts prove that species suddenly appeared. Survival of the fittest obviously is a fact, but the fittest still remain in thier species. Birds who are deing of bird flu won´t now decide to change into fish to avoid it for example.

Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Is there truly anything that is "definete"?

Your doubt about anything-definite seems pretty definite.

This reminds me of those are-there-any-absolutes? threads.

2+2=4, anyone?

Originally posted by Mindship
Your doubt about anything-definite seems pretty definite.

This reminds me of those are-there-any-absolutes? threads.

2+2=4, anyone?

Obviously you cannot conjure a relevant opinion.

That's alright. I don't discriminate.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Theorys are just some people guessing at things, and because they have some ,poeple tend to respect and accept thier theory.

Take Einsteins theory of relativity, brilliant idea but proven wrong. Not many people know that.
Same goes for Evolution, there isn´t any evidence at all to prove that species gradually changed into something else, in fact the facts prove that species suddenly appeared. Survival of the fittest obviously is a fact, but the fittest still remain in thier species. Birds who are deing of bird flu won´t now decide to change into fish to avoid it for example.

Theory of relativity was not proven wrong, it is widely used in nuclear physics, and GPS systems. I am studying to be a physicist and I know what I am talking about. BTW, where did you see that ?

Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Hmm....

I've been thinking about this for several years now and it's been bothering me horribly.

Everything exists as a Theory.

Think on it... Hard...

Is there truly anything that is "definete"?

Science is a Theory, Religon is a Theory...

Hell, Life and Death in itself is all a Theory.

I know it seems like I'm sounding a bit on the obvious side, but doesn't us not knowing the answers kind of suck?

Doesn't living by a bunch of assumptions and undefined answers suck?

Sorgo go back to the star wars forum lol...

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These are high matters, there really is no point in you worrying about it.

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Some people consider disciplines like mathematics definate, other people stress nothing can be proven outside of your own mind. 'What is truth?' is a long running debate that will have no answer in the near future.

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Science is based on the scientific method and reason, if any of our concepts can be considered true then science is among them. You got 'religion is a theory' right, because it is based solely on faith.

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Hell is certainly not a fact but life and death are. What are you if not alive? I dont know of any plausible arguments that question the truth of your own existence when it is plainly self-evident. Death is also self-evident because you will die. Simple as that.

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Actually living a life of mystery is much better than living a life where everything is known. If you are god-like and all knowing what is the point?!?

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Science is based on the scientific method and reason, if any of our concepts can be considered true then science is among them. You got 'religion is a theory' right, because it is based solely on faith.

Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess, so you can´t say religion is a theory because it is based on faith. Science is just another theory too. What he meant is that theories(scientific or not) always need to be assumed to be true in its most basic level. They can´t be proven since they must have basic propositions or axioms that must be assumed to be true, and that cannot be proven.

Originally posted by Atlantis001
Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess, so you can´t say religion is a theory because it is based on faith. Science is just another theory too. What he meant is that theories(scientific or not) always need to be assumed to be true in its most basic level. They can´t be proven since they must have basic propositions or axioms that must be assumed to be true, and that cannot be proven.

Yeah your right, religion isnt even worthy of being called a theory. As for science, thats what I meant...If we assume certain basic axioms are true than science is 'truth', however if we do not then there is nothing that can be proven outside of your own existence ofcourse.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Sorgo go back to the star wars forum lol...

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These are high matters, there really is no point in you worrying about it.

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Some people consider disciplines like mathematics definate, other people stress nothing can be proven outside of your own mind. 'What is truth?' is a long running debate that will have no answer in the near future.

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Science is based on the scientific method and reason, if any of our concepts can be considered true then science is among them. You got 'religion is a theory' right, because it is based solely on faith.

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Hell is certainly not a fact but life and death are. What are you if not alive? I dont know of any plausible arguments that question the truth of your own existence when it is plainly self-evident. Death is also self-evident because you will die. Simple as that.

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Actually living a life of mystery is much better than living a life where everything is known. If you are god-like and all knowing what is the point?!?

Don't try to act like you all mighty debater just because you go to the GDF instead of the Star Wars forums now.

That's Arrogant and outright ridiculous coming from some of the debates I've seen from you.

Everything you just said I could call wrong because everything is built on a Theory.

It's truthfully that simple.

This should be at the philosophy forum.

Everything that has a begining has an end. thats it.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Yeah your right, religion isnt even worthy of being called a theory. As for science, thats what I meant...If we assume certain basic axioms are true than science is 'truth', however if we do not then there is nothing that can be proven outside of your own existence ofcourse.

There is no diference between science and religion in the point that is being debated. Science, and religion are both based on axioms, both of them are based on "faith" in those axioms. Religion is just the theory in where other different axioms are assumed to be true.