Is Human Monogamy Natural or Unnatural?

Started by Bardock426 pages
Originally posted by Wonderer
Oh, yes. Now I see it, it was hiding behind that big, fluffy cloud. Sorry, I must have missed it. Ok, so then you're wrong and I'm right! 😉 The absolute point of reference (or should that be reverence) have just informed me that I'm right.

It might have...but I can't be sure...neither can you.....

But to assume that there is no reality (that's what you are doing) is quite a big step. Almost as big as to assume that there is a reality.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It might have...but I can't be sure...neither can you.....

But to assume that there is no reality (that's what you are doing) is quite a big step. Almost as big as to assume that there is a reality.

No reality? That's not what I meant. I think you are assuming that Reality = Absolute. Can't reality also be relative to an individual? There need not be any absolute point of reverence to sustain reality, right?

How do you define reality in a world with over 6 billion people?

Originally posted by Wonderer
No reality? That's not what I meant. I think you are assuming that Reality = Absolute. Can't reality also be relative to an individual? There need not be any absolute point of reverence to sustain reality, right?

How do you define reality in a world with over 6 billion people?

Well to put it simple, Reality is what exist and is not subjective. I don't know if there is actually such a thing. But there might. And if there is then that is absolute. And if there is an absolute then there are facts. And where there are facts there is a right and wrong when talking about them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well to put it simple, Reality is what exist and is not subjective. I don't know if there is actually such a thing. But there might. And if there is then that is absolute. And if there is an absolute then there are facts. And where there are facts there is a right and wrong when talking about them.

Reality, or that which exists, as you put it, is experienced and interpreted by individuals as well as pointed at by individuals, hence expressed subjectively and relatively from the point of view of the individual, right? Where is the absolute in all of this? Where is the proof that any of these individual expressions have a common absolute as object?

Originally posted by Wonderer
Reality, or that which exists, as you put it, is experienced and interpreted by individuals as well as pointed at by individuals, hence expressed subjectively and relatively from the point of view of the individual, right? Where is the absolute in all of this? Where is the proof that any of these individual expressions have a common absolute as object?

I will say it again, I can't even prove that I exist. How do you assume I am able to prove that some sort of reality exists?

I am just saying it might. And it might be expressed by what we experience subjectively. You could maybe say that the similar experiences point at some sort of similar cause...but that is not really a proof for it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I will say it again, I can't even prove that I exist. How do you assume I am able to prove that some sort of reality exists?

I am just saying it might. And it might be expressed by what we experience subjectively. You could maybe say that the similar experiences point at some sort of similar cause...but that is not really a proof for it.

Let's be honest, I don't think you and I are going to solve this issue here, I mean, philosophers have argued over this topic for millenia.

I think a 💃 is real enough, and enjoyable enough, but not an absolute reality.

Originally posted by Wonderer
Let's be honest, I don't think you and I are going to solve this issue here, I mean, philosophers have argued over this topic for millenia.

I think a 💃 is real enough, and enjoyable enough, but not an absolute reality.

Yeah, my point exactly. It is unsolvable.

My opinion is that a banana is real enough, and enjoyable enough, and also based on some sort of absolute reality.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, my point exactly. It is unsolvable.

My opinion is that a banana is real enough, and enjoyable enough, and also based on some sort of absolute reality.

Well, I've just swallowed the top of your absolute reality then! 😄

Now don't get going again.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Oh, totally debatable. But, I'm a guy, and most of my friends are too. And, whether it be the truth or not, it always seems to be the guy who wanders first. Maybe the chick is lying. But, I only have my own perspective and experience on which to operate.

We all have our own perspective and experiences. Mine seem to contradict yours. So the truth probably lie somewhere in the middle: the “wandering” does not depends on gender – it depends on the person.

thoughts on monogamy...

hmm..so i logged online now and came across this article where Scarlett Johansson claims, "I do think on some basic level we are animals, and by instinct we kind of breed accordingly-".

This ignited my curiosity about what the general views on the idea of monogamy is. 😕

Personally, for myself I can't help but find a completely monogamous relationship very appealing and can't see myself thinking otherwise.Its very interesting how we seem to limit ourselves to social monogamy but sexually the idea seems to be thrown out the window, most often excused as "instinctual" and "natural" similar to the views expressed by Johansson above.

So yeah, thoughts?

Monogamy is a fine concept when two people are committed to each other, but in a natural state, people just....sex sex sex...ermm

isn't she going out with Bob Dylan or something? I saw them together in an article of Rolling Stone....

Monogamy is for squares.

Originally posted by SelphieT
isn't she going out with Bob Dylan or something? I saw them together in an article of Rolling Stone....
I shudder to think

This article makes no ****ing sense what so ever. I dunno if it's her or the person who wrote the article who's not quoting her correctly...

First she says this, in fact it's the title of the whole freaking article...

'I'm Not Promiscuous'

Then she adds this...

"There does seem to be a mistaken belief out there that I am sexually available somehow"

And then she says this...

"I get tested for HIV twice a year"

🤨

I don't get it and I don't care, she's still hot as hell.

Like that dude told her in the movie The Island, 'I know Jesus loves you'

Originally posted by RZA
This article makes no ****ing sense what so ever. I dunno if it's her or the person who wrote the article who's not quoting her correctly...

First she says this, in fact it's the title of the whole freaking article...

'I'm Not Promiscuous'

Then she adds this...

"There does seem to be a mistaken belief out there that I am sexually available somehow"

And then she says this...

"I get tested for HIV twice a year"

🤨

I don't get it and I don't care, she's still hot as hell.

Like that dude told her in the movie The Island, 'I know Jesus loves you'

LOL.

Too true. 😛

i have never thought of anything other than monogamy personally

Originally posted by Mr. Bacon
i have never thought of anything other than monogamy personally

Ditto...

Only one girl for me.

yeah..but not many people, men specially don't think like that...😬