Orion vs. Apocalypse

Started by TheKahn2 pages
Originally posted by Xplosive
Haven't you learned that Apocalypse cannot be killed.

Magneto killed him in AOA
Black Bolt killed him in House of M
Cable killed him in his own time
Cable came back in time and killed him.
(given that Marvel isn't too keen on keeping anyone dead for long, it still counts as killing him imo.)

Astro-Force=Omega beams, Orion will kill apocalpyse end of story. Orion over all to powerful plus with out the mother box it's not even close. After Orion is done with him sends him to daddy and you know his daddy loves new lap dogs.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Magneto killed him in AOA
Black Bolt killed him in House of M
Cable killed him in his own time
Cable came back in time and killed him.
(given that Marvel isn't too keen on keeping anyone dead for long, it still counts as killing him imo.)

Exactly^^^, if you die you lose plain and simple.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Magneto killed him in AOA
Black Bolt killed him in House of M
Cable killed him in his own time
Cable came back in time and killed him.
(given that Marvel isn't too keen on keeping anyone dead for long, it still counts as killing him imo.)
Originally posted by the Darkone
Exactly^^^, if you die you lose plain and simple.

Apocalypse is back, right.
Was he killed, I guess not.
Cyclops said, didn't we kill him, I guess not.

He was killed,hello
it's his spirit that lives and goes to a new body.

Orion rearrange his moelcules with the astro glider or kills him with the full power of astro force.

Originally posted by the Darkone
He was killed,hello
it's his spirit that lives and goes to a new body.

It doesn't matter, in that case it only means he was stopped for some time.

that still constitutes as a win. plus he's been beaten at full power by a very weakened Classic Magneto in AOA. Currently he has host bodies that can't even use his full potential. He's gonna be curbstomped.

Originally posted by TheKahn
Magneto killed him in AOA
Black Bolt killed him in House of M
Cable killed him in his own time
Cable came back in time and killed him.
(given that Marvel isn't too keen on keeping anyone dead for long, it still counts as killing him imo.)

True, Mags killed him fair and square. But Apocalypse did beat both Bishop and Mags at the same time. (but mags was at half power). that was still a cool issue though.

Black Bolt killed him. Yes, that is rational and logical. But the fact still remains that that happened in the "wand-ized" universe, so it does not count. (speaking of not counting: Hudlin said that Apocalypse can only press 20 tons, but he beats and decks Namor out of the water!)

Cable killed him in his own time. Also logical and rational. I have no quarrel with this statement.

Cable came BACK and killed him??? No, no I don't think so. Not in the 616 or AOA or Mutant X universes anyway. I think you were mistaking him for Stryfe, who beat up on Apocalypse when he was extremely NEAR DEATH and STILL didn't kill him.
(okay they technically ARE the same so......yeah).

But it is always important to remember:

APOCALYPSE HELD BACK THE HULK. 😎

Originally posted by Superherovandal
that still constitutes as a win. plus he's been beaten at full power by a very weakened Classic Magneto in AOA. Currently he has host bodies that can't even use his full potential. He's gonna be curbstomped.

At the time Magneto ripped Apocalypse in two (also have no problem with that), he was "restored" miraculously.

Originally posted by APOCALYPSE NUR
True, Mags killed him fair and square. But Apocalypse did beat both Bishop and Mags at the same time. (but mags was at half power). that was still a cool issue though.

Black Bolt killed him. Yes, that is rational and logical. But the fact still remains that that happened in the "wand-ized" universe, so it does not count. (speaking of not counting: Hudlin said that Apocalypse can only press 20 tons, but he beats and decks Namor out of the water!)

Cable killed him in his own time. Also logical and rational. I have no quarrel with this statement.

Cable came BACK and killed him??? No, no I don't think so. Not in the 616 or AOA or Mutant X universes anyway. I think you were mistaking him for Stryfe, who beat up on Apocalypse when he was extremely NEAR DEATH and STILL didn't kill him.
(okay they technically ARE the same so......yeah).

I wasn't trying to comment on the methods that killed him, I was attempting to prove that he CAN be killed. IMO Cable did kill him in the current time line and initially Marvel intended Apocalypse to stay dead. But then there was the House of M and the Decimation events and the powers that be at Marvel thought it would be really cool to bring Apocalypse back. And so they reveal that Apocalypse didn't really "die". 🙁

And to be honest, they haven't done a very good job of it. They really haven't explained his return from death clearly and Sunfire didn't even recognize him despite "The Twelve" storyline.

Apocalypse is hard to kill but it has been done several times. Just assuming that because Marvel won't let him die in the 616-Universe due to his popularity (see Jean Grey) that means that he CANNOT die just isn't very logical to me.

Originally posted by TheKahn
I wasn't trying to comment on the methods that killed him, I was attempting to prove that he CAN be killed. IMO Cable did kill him in the current time line and initially Marvel intended Apocalypse to stay dead. But then there was the House of M and the Decimation events and the powers that be at Marvel thought it would be really cool to bring Apocalypse back. And so they reveal that Apocalypse didn't really "die". 🙁

And to be honest, they haven't done a very good job of it. They really haven't explained his return from death clearly and Sunfire didn't even recognize him despite "The Twelve" storyline.

Apocalypse is hard to kill but it has been done several times. Just assuming that because Marvel won't let him die in the 616-Universe due to his popularity (see Jean Grey) that means that he CANNOT die just isn't very logical to me.

oh,...........ok, whatever then! 😄

I used to be all like "Dude Apocalypse could beat so and so" (which wasn't unfair to say). But now I'm just like;

"Here's why Apocalypse SHOULDN'T have been KILLED AND RAPED by mighty mouse....."

.........tis' sad.

Orion every day, twice on sundays. Jobpocalypse gets curbstomped