Originally posted by Faunus
I'll be the eight year-old and skip the insults, but what haven't I addressed?
Somebody, I think TDTD said that Naga Sadow had shown force power (through amulets and feats etc) far beyond those of Kun's and because of the fact that Kressh stalemated him, he would likely take Kun too. My point was that the force power which Naga Sadow has displayed (which was his argument for saying that sadow would take Kun) was not used in his battle with Kressh, and so even though Kressh stalemated him, he stalemated him in terms of swordfighting and not in terms of the force.
Originally posted by Numan
Somebody, I think TDTD said that Naga Sadow had shown force power (through amulets and feats etc) far beyond those of Kun's and because of the fact that Kressh stalemated him, he would likely take Kun too. My point was that the force power which Naga Sadow has displayed (which was his argument for saying that sadow would take Kun) was not used in his battle with Kressh, and so even though Kressh stalemated him, he stalemated him in terms of swordfighting and not in terms of the force.
So because we haven't seen Ludo Kressh show any force powers, it means he doesn't have any?
That's an illogical assumption, sorry. Logic points the other direction, particularly since he was able to demolish enormous statues with a clench of his fist.
Kressh has shown no force powers that would put him higher then Kun and yet you claim that he would win because he stalemated Naga Sadow. Naga Sadow has shown force power beyond Kun, but the fact was his duel with Kressh was only swordfighting and not a force battle. So we do not know how Kressh would deal with Naga Sadow in a force battle. Therefor your point is moot.
Originally posted by Numan
Kressh has shown no force powers that would put him higher then Kun and yet you claim that he would win because he stalemated Naga Sadow. Naga Sadow has shown force power beyond Kun, but the fact was his duel with Kressh was only swordfighting and not a force battle. So we do not know how Kressh would deal with Naga Sadow in a force battle. Therefor your point is moot.
Actually we do.
If Sadow was superior to Kressh in the force, then he would have simply destroyed Kressh with the force in that battle or any other because they were rivals and hated each others guts. Logically we can conclude that neither one of them is more powerful then the other with the force because the force wasn't used to destroy the other one. And if one is more powerful it is not by a lot.
Originally posted by Numan
Kressh has shown no force powers that would put him higher then Kun and yet you claim that he would win because he stalemated Naga Sadow. Naga Sadow has shown force power beyond Kun, but the fact was his duel with Kressh was only swordfighting and not a force battle. So we do not know how Kressh would deal with Naga Sadow in a force battle. Therefor your point is moot.
If the point is moot, then why did you make a thread about it?
The perfectly logical conclusion is that Ludo Kressh was able to match Naga Sadow action for action, and Naga Sadow is canonically extremely powerful. For a large part of GAotS, Kressh was the favorite to be the Dark Lord of the Sith.
If the point is moot, why do you assume the negative for Kressh?
There's nothing there for you that would make assuming that Kressh has no strong force powers valid. All evidence (however sparse they are) points to the exact opposite.
Originally posted by Fishy
Actually we do.If Sadow was superior to Kressh in the force, then he would have simply destroyed Kressh with the force in that battle or any other because they were rivals and hated each others guts. Logically we can conclude that neither one of them is more powerful then the other with the force because the force wasn't used to destroy the other one. And if one is more powerful it is not by a lot.
That is just crappy speculation. You are forgetting that most 1 on 1 battles goes down to a melee battle. By your logic Kun would have destroyed Ulic with the force. He was as desperate to kill Ulic as Sadow was to kill Ulic. Yet he didn't simply blast him with his amulet and instead went into a saber duel with him.