Originally posted by 123KIDIts hundreds and thousands of senators considering the size of the senate.
so a strong Force user can paralyze thousands of non-force Users? impressive
Originally posted by 123KIDUnsupported.
Nihilus killed most of the Jedi Council and a race of Force Sensitives and everything on a planet in perhaps the same time it took Kun to paralyze a few non-Force users
Originally posted by 123KIDI guess you never read the books where kun choke and suspended 20 over jedi knights with the force with ease.
and Nihilus could easily stun the others while he deals with Kun
Its hundreds and thousands of senators considering the size of the senate.
you probably mean "hundreds of thousands" and i'd like you to prove that number since you claimed it
Unsupported.
perfectly supported in the comic where we both are told and shown when nihilus spoke, every living thing on the entire planet of Katarr was killed
fact and canon
I guess you never read the books where kun choke and suspended 20 over jedi knights with the force with ease.
and Nihilus killed and...killed most of the Jedi Council and Visas' race with ease
Originally posted by 123KIDMaybe not hundreds and thousands but this
you probably mean "hundreds of thousands" and i'd like you to prove that number since you claimed it
In contrast to the Galactic Senate Building that eventually replaced it, the Senate Hall was a smaller, more intimate debating chamber, designed in a far more ancient architectural style and constructed over thousands of years. Its interior resembled an oval stadium, and it was estimated that perhaps as many as 50,000 senators could seat there comfortably. The Republic Senate Guardsmen were responsible for guarding not only the building, but the senators, Supreme Chancellor, Vice Chair, and the Staff Aide during senatorial meetings. It was also used during Inquisitions
In 3,996 BBY, during the trial of Ulic Qel-Droma, the Sith Lord Exar Kun entered the Hall, placing the assembled senators and the Supreme Chancellor under his control as he battled Jedi to free his apprentice.
At some point following the wars, possibly due to damage sustained during one of the Sith attacks on Coruscant, the Hall was replaced with the much more resilient Senate Building.
Originally posted by 123KIDYou DO know what claim was i making right considering your level of intelligence. Let me elaborate to an idiot who came out of the games versus forum.
perfectly supported in the comic where we both are told and shown when nihilus spoke, every living thing on the entire planet of Katarr was killed
fact and canon
Exar kun stunned "prehaps 50 000" people instantly.
YOU claimed nihilus wiped out the entire planet in prehaps the same time exar kun did to stun those people and there is nothing to back you up HENCE i labelled it unsupported that he killed the people on katarr in the same time.
Originally posted by 123KIDLets see, you seem to forget "most" of the jedi already died in the jedi civil war and it was merely the remaining few under a hundred. You also seem to forget they were caught off guard.
and Nihilus killed and...killed most of the Jedi Council and Visas' race with ease
You also seem to forget its more difficult to touch the bond of a force user whom has been described as immensely strong with the force.
You too have seem to forget that exar kun has resisted a force sever with ease which brings up the fact of weather or not nihilus can do anything to his bond.
Oh right how i forget kun is a master of sith sorcery, and the fact that there are techniques in sith sorcery which also masks your presence in the force whom was demonstrated by darth zannah at that time when she was far inferior to exar kun in that aspect.
You DO know what claim was i making right considering your level of intelligence. Let me elaborate to an idiot who came out of the games versus forum.
says the idiot who was banned after visiting the game versus forum and was being owned ?
nice
Exar kun stunned "prehaps 50 000" people instantly.YOU claimed nihilus wiped out the entire planet in prehaps the same time exar kun did to stun those people and there is nothing to back you up HENCE i labelled it unsupported that he killed the people on katarr in the same time.
fair point
Lets see, you seem to forget "most" of the jedi already died in the jedi civil war and it was merely the remaining few under a hundred. You also seem to forget they were caught off guard.
A. where is the under a hundred jedi figure stated ?
B. not like they could do anything even if they were prepared
You also seem to forget its more difficult to touch the bond of a force user whom has been described as immensely strong with the force.
what exactly do you think Nihilus is ?
i'd say he's immensely strong with the Force......
You too have seem to forget that exar kun has resisted a force sever with ease which brings up the fact of weather or not nihilus can do anything to his bond.
Force sever isn't what Nihilus does
it's like it but not exactly the same so saying because he can resist the one means he can resist the other is faulty
the fact the one who attempted it is inferior to Nihilus doesn't help
Oh right how i forget kun is a master of sith sorcery, and the fact that there are techniques in sith sorcery which also masks your presence in the force whom was demonstrated by darth zannah at that time when she was far inferior to exar kun in that aspect.
yay for her
you're still in the Force and still ripe for being killed
Originally posted by 123KIDLOL how was i getting owned? In fact it was vice versa, I was owning them seeing the fact that i debunked all their unsupported theories, i was only banned because i was trolling.
says the idiot who was banned after visiting the game versus forum and was being owned ?
nice
Infact, the only way i got owned is when i got banned.
Incase your too stupid to realise, i wasn't the only one "owning" the so called intellects, you have dark-jaxx to thank for that matter.
Originally posted by 123KIDSomewhere in the loading screen, it said something about less than 100 jedi after the jedi civil war.
A. where is the under a hundred jedi figure stated ?
I don't have the game at the moment so look for it yourself.
Originally posted by 123KIDI guess you never hard of "the wall of light" where hundreds of jedi used to stop exar kuns spirit on yavin IV.
B. not like they could do anything even if they were prepared
Originally posted by 123KIDYes but HOW exactly is he going to tamper with the bond of another force user just as strong? You seem to forget the more powerful the force user, the greater the resistance.
what exactly do you think Nihilus is ?i'd say he's immensely strong with the Force......
Originally posted by 123KIDYou seem to forget that odan urrs inferior nomi sunrider was able to pwn ulic qel droma, whom is slightly less powerful than exar kun and the fact that odan, despite being stronger than nomi couldn't cut exar kun off the force due to his incredible strength in the force.
Force sever isn't what Nihilus does
it's like it but not exactly the same so saying because he can resist the one means he can resist the other is faulty
the fact the one who attempted it is inferior to Nihilus doesn't help
Its s-i-m-i-l-a-r techniques, if you had the capabilities to read you would realised i never said that.
Originally posted by 123KIDOh still trying to fight a lost battle?
yay for her
you're still in the Force and still ripe for being killed
How the hell do you touch ones force sensitivity if you can't sense it or see it? YES! i'm still ripe for being shotm but whats the point of that happening when you can't sense or see me?
Because your so stupid, i'll bring out a metaphor,
You have the most powerful rifle in the world, and i cloak myself invisible, tell me, HOW the hell are you going to know where to shoot? HOW the hell do you know where i am?
So what if they are still connected to the force? Your precious nihilus can't do anything to their force bond simply because he can't sense or see it.
OH right how i forgot nihilus sees through the force considering he has no eyes and the fact that if any force user applies sith sorcery or the fallanasi technique, HE CAN'T SENSE OR SEE THEM.
Get it in your thick skull.
LOL how was i getting owned? In fact it was vice versa, I was owning them seeing the fact that i debunked all their unsupported theories, i was only banned because i was trolling.
so...you were debunking them while trolling ?
that doesn't make one bit of sense i hope you realize
I guess you never hard of "the wall of light" where hundreds of jedi used to stop exar kuns spirit on yavin IV.
were all those Jedi on the planet while Exar was in orbit on a ship and casting a technique to sever their life and Force connection ?
How the hell do you touch ones force sensitivity if you can't sense it or see it? YES! i'm still ripe for being shotm but whats the point of that happening when you can't sense or see me?
been over this
invisible doesn't mean you aren't there and can't be hit
his force sensitivity is cloaked...but his Force presence is still there
irrelevant since they won't think right off the bat to do this.....
You have the most powerful rifle in the world, and i cloak myself invisible, tell me, HOW the hell are you going to know where to shoot? HOW the hell do you know where i am?
i'm still waiting for you to prove why Exar or the others would mask their Force sensitivity
are you saying they know what Nihilus can do automatically ?
So what if they are still connected to the force? Your precious nihilus can't do anything to their force bond simply because he can't sense or see it.OH right how i forgot nihilus sees through the force considering he has no eyes and the fact that if any force user applies sith sorcery or the fallanasi technique, HE CAN'T SENSE OR SEE THEM.
Get it in your thick skull
get it through your thick skull that NONE of these people know Nihilus can only see through the Force
or that he's gonna feed on their life
Rex, ban this 123 kid. We have enough morons on here..
don't be so hard on yourself DS
Originally posted by 123KIDIt does, it is certainly possible to insult and argue intelligently at the same time, incase your too stupid to notice.
so...you were debunking them while trolling ?
that doesn't make one bit of sense i hope you realize
Originally posted by 123KIDDo you even know what i was trying to imply? The answer is no, because your so damn naive and ignorant, you couldn't even understand what i was implying.were all those Jedi on the planet while Exar was in orbit on a ship and casting a technique to sever their life and Force connection ?
Originally posted by 123KIDCorrect, but you have yet to elaborate on how nihilus is going to even attack one who has hidden his bond when he can't sense or see it.
been over this
invisible doesn't mean you aren't there and can't be hit
Originally posted by 123KIDLol, have you ever read any comic or novel in the clone wars where tholme uses the technique and quinlan vos couldn't feel his presence in the force?
his force sensitivity is cloaked...but his Force presence is still there
irrelevant since they won't think right off the bat to do this.....
If your force sensitivity gets cloaked, so does your bond, so does your presence.
Hence it was stated in rule of two that the jedi couldn't sense zannah's presence when she applied sith sorcery.
Originally posted by 123KIDBecause it counters and defends this technique?
i'm still waiting for you to prove why Exar or the others would mask their Force sensitivity
Its like asking me to prove why the hell would yoda ever use force deflection.
Originally posted by 123KIDUh you do know there is nothing in the first place to even prove the technique is instant the way lightning and other telekinetical powers right?
are you saying they know what Nihilus can do automatically ?
The weaker variant of his power took mere moments to even make a failed attempt to cut the exile off the force, so what makes you think a much stronger power like his ability is going to work in an even shorter amount of time?
Thats like saying "oh when is yoda going to use force deflection, its not like he knows what sidious can do automatically".
Or have you forgotten the amulet blasts which is instant and can dissintigrate nihilus instantly?
Originally posted by 123KIDDarth sidous does, luke skywalker does.
get it through your thick skull that NONE of these people know Nihilus can only see through the Force
or that he's gonna feed on their life
You DO know this technique derives from the ancient sith right? And the fact that people like exar kun, revan and darth sidious has plundered ancient dark side knowledge so why wouldn't they know when to use the sith sorcery or the fallanasi technique?
Or the fact that the information has been inputted into the archives where countless jedi could study?
Originally posted by 123KIDHey, show some respect to DS. He is one of the best debators in KMC and one of the most credible. He obviously has no interest to engage you in a debate due to your current level of stupidity.
don't be so hard on yourself DS
It does, it is certainly possible to insult and argue intelligently at the same time, incase your too stupid to notice.
you need to learn the definition of trolling
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:trolling&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
it's posting false information and stirring up shit
Do you even know what i was trying to imply? The answer is no, because your so damn naive and ignorant, you couldn't even understand what i was implying.
i do and i showed how it fell flat on its face
Lol, have you ever read any comic or novel in the clone wars where tholme uses the technique and quinlan vos couldn't feel his presence in the force?
so what you're telling me is that these Sith will do what a PT Jedi did thousands of years after them in a fight not involving any of the people here ?
wow
Uh you do know there is nothing in the first place to even prove the technique is instant the way lightning and other telekinetical powers right?
i never said it was
The weaker variant of his power took mere moments to even make a failed attempt to cut the exile off the force, so what makes you think a much stronger power like his ability is going to work in an even shorter amount of time?
well mainly your assertion it took moments to perform is faulty because we don't know why he was just standing there
you can assume all you want it took him that long to get it ready but of course your assumption has no basis at all
Or have you forgotten the amulet blasts which is instant and can dissintigrate nihilus instantly?
or have you forgotten the Nihilus' superior TK will render Kun totally immobile in no time ?
Darth sidous does, luke skywalker does.
what the HELL do they have to do with this thread?
it seems like you are freakihsly desperate to wank Palpatien and Luke
and Luke knows about Nihilus...how ?
You DO know this technique derives from the ancient sith right?
never stated anywhere
Kreia merely says its a technique "as old as the Sith themselves" which could mean anything
sure as hell doesn't mean there were Ancient Sith who did this
And the fact that people like exar kun, revan and darth sidious has plundered ancient dark side knowledge so why wouldn't they know when to use the sith sorcery or the fallanasi technique?
none of those people matter here except Kun and what he knows he learned from Sadow
no evidence says either Naga or Exar knew this power
and no matter what they know of the technique they have zero knowledge of Nihilus' eyesight
Or the fact that the information has been inputted into the archives where countless jedi could study?
huh ?
a record of Nihilus' technique is in the Jedi Archives ?
that's interesting
where is this stated ?
Hey, show some respect to DS. He is one of the best debators in KMC and one of the most credible. He obviously has no interest to engage you in a debate due to your current level of stupidity.
no he's a complete joke
Originally posted by 123KIDWow so at the nihilus vs sephiroth thread, posting facts such as metal does not contain midichlorians = trolling?
you need to learn the definition of trollinghttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&defl=en&q=define:trolling&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
it's posting false information and stirring up shit
Dude incase your too stupid to realise, i was banned for bashing, not trolling meaning i was arguing logically but at the same time insulting other members.
Originally posted by 123KIDI merely implied that of they were aware, they with the
i do and i showed how it fell flat on its face
Originally posted by 123KIDYou DO know that there are other techniques which does the same thing right? Such as sith sorcery which exar kun mastered? You DO know the technique wasn't invented by the PT jedi right?
so what you're telling me is that these Sith will do what a PT Jedi did thousands of years after them in a fight not involving any of the people here ?
You DO know i was merely debunking your theories right? Such that "Oh!!!! you use this technique but it wont hide your presence!!!!!!!"
I merely proved you wrong by giving you an example that it DOES mask your presence, i never said exar kun would use the fallanasi technique.
And you DO know that sith sorcery also makes your presence not there right?
Originally posted by 123KIDWhich gives his opponent ample time to kill him.
i never said it was
Originally posted by 123KIDFirstly i was referring to the 3 combined powers of the jedi masters on dantooine whom failed to induce a force sever.
well mainly your assertion it took moments to perform is faulty because we don't know why he was just standing there
you can assume all you want it took him that long to get it ready but of course your assumption has no basis at all
Secondly i was using simple logic, if an inferior technique can take so long, what makes you think a more powerful variant could take a shorter amount of time?
THAT was my assertion. LEARN to read.
Originally posted by 123KIDHave you forgot the fact that he never used it on the exile , visas and mandalore? Have you forget the stronger the force user the higher his resistance meaning nihilus would not be able to "Easily harm" exar kun with TK as you are trying to imply?or have you forgotten the Nihilus' superior TK will render Kun totally immobile in no time ?
This brings up a question... where did it say he lifted the ravager with the force again?
Originally posted by 123KIDLol, i merely listed people whom can defeat nihilus.it seems like you are freakihsly desperate to wank Palpatiena nd Luke
Originally posted by 123KIDOh but he does, anybody who read the NEC would know that it was dictated by an inuniverse character and the fact that there were jedi like the exile and visas to input data about darth nihilus into the archives which would be easily avalible to luke.
and might i add Luke doesn't know shit about Nihilus
Originally posted by 123KIDHe got the technique from malachor V did he not? where the ancient sith built.
never stated anywhere
Originally posted by 123KIDLol and you seem to forget she mentioned it as "The greatest of the sith teachings". And whom were the first people to start "the sith teachings"? The ancient sith of course. And "As old as the sith themselves" could mean the technique was invented when the first sith emerged.
Kreia merely says its a technique "as old as the Sith themselves" which could mean anything
sure as hell doesn't mean there were Ancient Sith who did this
Originally posted by 123KIDYou seem to forget that kun learned alot from korriban too. And the fact that it would be stupid to assume naga or exar never bothered plunduring ancient dark side knowledge seeing that ever sith is on a quest to get power.
none of thos epeople matter here except Kun and what he knows he learned from Sadow
no evidence says either Naga or Exar knew this power
Originally posted by 123KIDDoesn't mean they won't defend against his attack.
and no matter what they know of the technique they have zero knowledge of Nihilus' eyesight
Originally posted by 123KIDAnybody who has read the NEC would know it was dictated by an inuniverse perspective meaning it was inputed in the history files in the jedi archives.huh ?
a record of Nihilus' technique is in the Jedi Archives ?
that's interesting
where is this stated ?
Originally posted by 123KIDIn your eyes yes, in reality no, hes a very intelligent person.
no he's a complete joke
Dude incase your too stupid to realise, i was banned for bashing, not trolling meaning i was arguing logically but at the same time insulting other members.
WTF?
"i was only banned because i was trolling."
you said that
You DO know i was merely debunking your theories right? Such that "Oh!!!! you use this technique but it wont hide your presence!!!!!!!"
i never said that
"invisible doesn't mean you aren't there and can't be hit
his force sensitivity is cloaked...but his Force presence is still there"
it is still there because he is still connected to the Force
i
Secondly i was using simple logic, if an inferior technique can take so long, what makes you think a more powerful variant could take a shorter amount of time?
he used it instantly when Sion charged him
cut content but still content from teh game you can gain if you know how
so your assumtpion fails that it was the need to prep that technique tha ttook so long because well...it's a complete assumtpion based on zero facts
Have you forgot the fact that he never used it on the exile ,
he never had to he had her at his mercy with another technique
This brings up a question... where did it say he lifted the ravager with the force again?
your Retardedness is going off the scale mate
Tobin says plain that what he did was "a measure of his power"
are you really going to seriously argue he meant he used anything but TK to pull the Ravager away from Malachor ?
because if you are you should really just leave and never try to debate again
Oh but he does, anybody who read the NEC would know that it was dictated by an inuniverse character and the fact that there were jedi like the exile and visas to input data about darth nihilus into the archives which would be easily avalible to luke.
because Luke knows as much as a Galactic historian ?
lol
you make way too many assumptions
Lol and you seem to forget she mentioned it as "The greatest of the sith teachings". And whom were the first people to start "the sith teachings"? The ancient sith of course. And "As old as the sith themselves" could mean the technique was invented when the first sith emerged.
A. where did she say tha ?
B. it could but that's an assumption and those don't fly in debates
Originally posted by 123KIDBut thinking about it, i was wrong, i was banned FOR BASHING, Its fact! So accept it and move on with life.
[B]WTF?"i was only banned because i was trolling."
you said that[/B]
Originally posted by 123KID
i never said that"invisible doesn't mean you aren't there and can't be hit
his force sensitivity is cloaked...but his Force presence is still there"[/B]
Originally posted by 123KIDBut to nihilus, the user would appear not connected to the force.
it is still there because he is still connected to the Force
Originally posted by 123KIDIf you had common sense or logic, zeh uber cut content video depicted a force drain, not the killer technique, how do we even know in the cut content video that he wanted to kill sion seeing that nihilus let him lived?
he used it instantly when Sion charged him
cut content but still content from teh game you can gain if you know how
PROVE it was the killer technique, or just shut the hell up.
Originally posted by 123KIDYet he stood there despite the exile allowed him to feed on her, you still have yet to prove its an instant technique, Hell even techniques such as banes and palpatines force storm would take mere seconds.
so your assumtpion fails that it was the need to prep that technique tha ttook so long because well...it's a complete assumtpion based on zero facts
Again a weaker variant took mere moments so how is a more powerful technique going to work in a shorter amount of time?
Originally posted by 123KIDName that technique. Again when he was fighting for his life, why wouldn't he resort to his uber TK?
he never had to he had her at his mercy with another technique
Originally posted by 123KIDSeriously, there is really no scale of "Retardedness"(Does the word even exist?O.o) If i were even at the least slightly retarted, i wouldn't be sitting here arguing with a brat.
your Retardedness is going off the scale mate
Originally posted by 123KIDI could simply argue that tobin was under the assumption that nihilus pulled the ravager from malachor considering the fact that tobin is standing before a powerful being hence he made an assumption.
Tobin says plain that what he did was "a measure of his power"
are you really going to seriously argue he meant he used anything but TK to pull the Ravager away from Malachor ?
Tobin never saw nihilus lifting the ship riggghtt?
Originally posted by 123KIDAgain i don't suck your cock(s) so you don't tell me what to do, Right now EVERYBODY reading your posts is laughing at you.
because if you are you should really just leave and never try to debate again
Originally posted by 123KIDUh yes? Then how the hell did luke know about exar kun or marka ragnos? How the hell did sidious know about nihilus and the events of malachor V? Its called teh jedi/sith archives dumbshit.because Luke knows as much as a Galactic historian ?
Originally posted by 123KIDAnd you speculate far too much without proving anything.
you make way too many assumptions
Originally posted by 123KIDDo you ever get enough influence to talk to kreia? She said that when you question her about visas master.
A. where did she say tha ?
B. it could but that's an assumption and those don't fly in debates
Originally posted by Janus Marius
This is still going on? Considering ancients like Ragnos and Sadow spawned the techniques Nihilus uses and considering Kun has a carte blanche on those amulet blasts, I just see Nihilus getting obliterated before he can eat anything.
Indeed. The eating technique was derived from the ancient sith...
This is still going on?
Sadow throse a brick and misses. hsi arsenal of force powers has now been depleted. Sado loses.
Marka Ragnos fies on purpose then comes back as a spectre and does nothing, as that's really the only thing he can do to.
Then it's just Nihilus vs. Exar. I believe that Nihilus would win but Kun can get him with amulets pretty bad. Nihilus 6/10 times.