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Wonderer Senior Member

Re: Re: Re: -=- Prooving God is not Relliable / Not Necessairy -=-

Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
This is Aimed at Christian / Mormon / Protestant.

In other words, your view of God is the one which Constantine and other businessmen sold a few centuries ago.

katie_girl09 Senior Member

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Probably has something to do with Christianity being the bully who tries to force others to agree with it. History is littered with examples of Christianity's intolerance towards other belief systems.

I find it funny how no one says that about Islam... only Christianity. People never seem to wanna let go of Imperialism and other happenings in history many years ago as the example of Christianity being a bullying and evil religion.

katie_girl09 Senior Member

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The lesson is blind faith. It is used by people of power to control that masses. "Do what I say, because what I say is what god said." That is the controlling way.

But in this case it was God Himself that told Abraham to do it.

Black Rob The Leading Man

Originally posted by Koala MeatPie
Two ways here.
1st off, If God chooses what is good and what isn't, then he could change his mind from day to day.
Example: Kill Your Son to prove your devotion to me, this is good. *goes to kill his son* No, on second thought, Don't you have already proven enough.
2ndly, if it was already good or bad, we don't need God to tel us this.
Case closed.
Now I know I will get some debate on that 1st point, but all in all, its true. If HE decides whats good or not, then he can change It from day to day.

The obvious response to that is whats good and bad? Aren't good and bad vagueries that humans created to classify the occurence of our lives?

Wesker Plo Koon Rulez!

Re: Re: Re: -=- Prooving God is not Relliable / Not Necessairy -=-

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
God told Abraham that murder is wrong. Perhaps telling Abraham to kill his only son could have been a test to see if he would disobey God.
Perhaps it was not the voice of God that told Abraham to kill his only son, but the voice of the Devil.
Perhaps it was not the voice of God that told Abraham to kill his only son, but the voice his own madness.
Perhaps God wanted Abraham to kill his only son because He is a wicked and evil god.
The point is that Abraham did not know whether the voice he heard was the voice of God, the Devil, or his own madness. He chose to believe it was the voice of God.
Believing the voice he heard to be the voice of God, Abraham did not know whether God was testing him to see if he would obey the command to kill his only son, or testing him to see if he would obey the command not to murder, and not kill his only son. He chose to believe that it was a test to obey the command to murder his son.
Fear and Trembling, indeed.

I think this says it best. It is irrational that Abraham believed in God when he said Isaac would grow up and lead a great nation, believed in God's word that murder was evil, and then proceeded to murder his son on what he perceived to be God's orders.