Originally posted by Scoobless
this?http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spiderstrenght1pc1re.jpg
Anyway, Naferia and Naferius were both stronger than almost all the good guys on earth
That thing is seriously innacurate now. I dont reckon the Surfer is nearly as strong as Spiderman. (Sarcasm)
Its still a cool article and i wash Wizard would do an updated version. Maybe one that included D.C. characters ?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
among the HEAVY WIEGHTS{originally}
it used to be
APOCALYPSE
HULK
THOR
THING
BLOB
RHINOand these are the non enhanced ones{otherwise mags is also way up there}
COLOSSUS
HERCULES
ATLAS
NAMOR
IRONMAN
BLACKBOLT
WENDIGO
SHE HULK
Namor is stronger then Blob, Rhino and Thing.
Water doesn't enhance him. It simply returns him at the normal levels he is at. Sea IS the place he was born in. He's simply better in his natural dominion, but aren't we all?
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerand Thor has saidf on Numerous occasions that his strength is not equal to Hercules, Hercules is brute strength strongest of the gods, the man towed the Island of Manhattan for god's sake......
Namor is stronger then Blob, Rhino and Thing.Water doesn't enhance him. It simply returns him at the normal levels he is at. Sea IS the place he was born in. He's simply better in his natural dominion, but aren't we all?
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
That thing is seriously innacurate now. I dont reckon the Surfer is nearly as strong as Spiderman. (Sarcasm)Its still a cool article and i wash Wizard would do an updated version. Maybe one that included D.C. characters ?
How that list looks nowadays, since Heroes Re-Born;
Super Heavy Weights :
Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Namor (In Water), Iron Man (For about a min), Silver Surfer
Heavy Weights :
Black Bolt, Wonderman, Captain Britain, Thing, Colossus, Sasquatch, Doc Samson, She Hulk,
Super Medium Weights :
Valkerie, Thundra, Vision, Cage , Ghost rider, Spiderman, Spider girl
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
How that list looks nowadays, since Heroes Re-Born;Super Heavy Weights :
Hulk, Thor, Hercules, Namor (In Water), Iron Man (For about a min), Silver Surfer
Heavy Weights :
Black Bolt, Wonderman, Captain Britain, Thing, Colossus, Sasquatch, Doc Samson, She Hulk,
Super Medium Weights :
Valkerie, Thundra, Vision, Cage , Ghost rider, Spiderman, Spider girl
If thats current then how is Hercules above She Hulk? In terms of strength shes shown she can beat current herc in an arm wrestl eso thats not quite right, plus in all the bouts her and Namor have had she has had the upper hand.
From those alive, the top 5 are Thor, Hulk, Iron Man (current armor can take a charge from a nearby power source) Namor, and Hercules. Now, I'm not going from people that aren't on earth at the moment, or aren't very active, so Beta Ray Bill is way up there, War Machine, Glads, Sentry, Hyperion, and so forth. There's plenty that have broken the 100 with ease, but I think the strongest rigth now may be a 4 way tie between Thor/Glads/Hyperion/Sentry.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If thats current then how is Hercules above She Hulk? In terms of strength shes shown she can beat current herc in an arm wrestl eso thats not quite right, plus in all the bouts her and Namor have had she has had the upper hand.
Not in all. Maybe back in 1940, when Namor was like 20, but in one FF comic Namor went toe to toe with her while not even in control of his own actions.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If thats current then how is Hercules above She Hulk? In terms of strength shes shown she can beat current herc in an arm wrestl eso thats not quite right, plus in all the bouts her and Namor have had she has had the upper hand.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If thats current then how is Hercules above She Hulk? In terms of strength shes shown she can beat current herc in an arm wrestl eso thats not quite right, plus in all the bouts her and Namor have had she has had the upper hand.
Ahhhhhh but my names G.S. and bios and lifting feats are all that count. Herc is superior in the Bio's, and Namor is more impressive with lifting feats. Matching an opponent in combat means nothing about strength .... (Sarcasm)
In reality, She hulk is no longer as strong she was after her original bio !!!!!!! And she has never come close to matching Namor under water, this is the level my chart clearly states him to be at.
I also reckon the arm wrestle thing may have been one of those examples of 'marvel heroes not showing their true strength until it really matters' scenarios !!!!!!!!
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Ahhhhhh but my names G.S. and bios and lifting feats are all that count. Herc is superior in the Bio's, and Namor is more impressive with lifting feats. Matching an opponent in combat means nothing about strength .... (Sarcasm)
As me and you have agreed before Hercules mortal status may be temporary and his bio may not be taking into account his dip in status over recent years. He has after all for most of his time in Marvel been immortal and of class 7. However the majority of his recent showings have not been reflective of this, both in terms of combat and lifting performance.
Good try Yahman but its completely different to the Firelord situation. Firelord doesnt have a multitude of feats and showings which contradict his bio stats. He has a few instances back in the 80's where he engaged Thor in combat before being overwhelmed by Thors superior strength. With a precedence for weaker characters performing so well against far superior ones it means nothing. She hulk back when she was class 75 has restrained Thor as well, but he eventually overcame her. Means nothing. Herc has admitted being depowered and then has consistently over recent years not shown himself to be beyond level 6ers. Completely different.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
In reality, She hulk is no longer as strong she was after her original bio !!!!!!! And she has never come close to matching Namor under water, this is the level my chart clearly states him to be at.
That makes no sense whaysoever. You seem confused. 😕 Originally She hulk was class 50 in her savage run, before becoming class 75 by her Sensational run and now shes class 100. Read your comment again and tell me how that makes sense. It doesnt really does it?
The She hulk respect thread has a number of feats which disagree with your comments. Namor underwater has lifted a few feet off the ground. Big Wow. She hulk has simultaneously resisted and then overpowered four Skrull battle cruisers each one capable of towing a Skrull warship. Please bear in mind that each one was tied to each of her limbs and the Skrull were flying out in each direction in an attempt to kill her 🙂
She has CONSISTENTLY throughout her career fought/held her own against/taken down class 100 powerhouses.
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
I also reckon the arm wrestle thing may have been one of those examples of 'marvel heroes not showing their true strength until it really matters' scenarios !!!!!!!!
Given Hercules recent relatively poor showings and his comments on being depowered theres no evidence on panel to support an ability to tap into some hidden inner strength to achieve the unthinkable under periods of stress as per Thor, Hulk and the like. 🙂
Never heard of Nefaria?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Nefaria
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Never heard of Nefaria?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Nefaria
Of course silly 😉
I only asked myself : Hey, where is Count Nefaria in this list of the five strongest people in Marvel ? He's reeeaaaaally strong.
