Darkseid vs. Uatu

The skyfathers of the marvel univers are powerful especially in their own realm where they can draw more powerful and become more powerful. As a whole the watchers are above skyfahters and some other abstracts in the universe. Can darkseid beat uatu yes because Uatu is not a fighter at all he will if he has to but he willstill get his ass kicked. Now if it's aron the rogue watcher know you are talking about a real fight, Aron is one of the most powerful watchers and the youngest.

Omega Beams won't kill beings that are important are have major roles in the universe. In the great hunger crossover omega beams didn't even phase galactus and plus galactus is very important he is balance between life and death.

watchers are not essential to the universe last time i checked are they? Galactus is if he dies the universe dies if a watcher dies the universe will not he is not essential i dont even think the celestials are.

Originally posted by the Darkone
The Watchers are above skyfathers.

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Watchers aren't above Skyfathers, only a few of them are while their majority is below any Godhead. Although I agree they play a more important role than the Gods that doesn't means much in terms of real power, besides that the Watchers are not abstract cosmic entities and their roles are not essential to the universe, they're just cosmic levels beings what is very different. Any idiot knows that.

Originally posted by Diunic
Watchers aren't above Skyfathers, only a few of them are while their majority is below any Godhead. Although I agree they play a more important role than the Gods that doesn't means much in terms of real power, besides that the Watchers are not abstract cosmic entities and their roles are not essential to the universe, they're just cosmic levels beings what is very different. Any idiot knows that.

Do not confuse role with power. Thats the big mistake youre making. Watchers have been shown on panel in issues of F4 to be a tier below Galactus in power. The skyfathers are below the cube beings who themselves are below the likes of high level cosmics such as the Watchers, Stranger Galactus and the like.

HAHAHAHAHAAHHA! Do you have proves GS? And of course the one thing I'm trying is to do dissociate role and power didn't you understand?

You're the one who is confusing role with power.

I said the Watchers role is more important.

Plus you can not say that Cosmic Cubes are above the Godheads just because you read that they might be on their profiles. Both are minor omnipotents is just that we don't have on panel comparisons.

Originally posted by Diunic
HAHAHAHAHAAHHA! Do you have proves GS? And of course the one thing I'm trying is to do dissociate role and power didn't you understand?

I can provide scans as soon as i obtain the appropriate issues in digital form. The skyfathers such as Odin and the like are not presented these days as powerful as you seem to think they are.

Everybodys just debating here no need to suddenly take an aggressive tone to one of a differing opinion. People will respond. 🙂

Originally posted by Diunic
Plus you can not say that Cosmic Cubes are above the Godheads just because you read that they might be on their profiles. Both are minor omnipotents is just that we don't have on panel comparisons.

If its stated in an offical source such as their official handbook bios then your OPINION to the contrary is irrelevant im afraid. Please understand that. Trying to treat your opinion as fact in debate will get you nowhere. 🙁

I'm not being aggressive but that are my opinions and I very much doubt that you can post one scan proving your point you can post a thousand but no one will never prove your point definitely. Only on panel comparisons can prove that nothing less than that. No arguments or opinions.

You know that it is not stated but supposed. Only direct comparisons can prove. Cosmic Cubes weren't around on Thanos the end.

Originally posted by Diunic
I'm not being aggressive but that are my opinions and I very much doubt that you can post one scan proving your point you can post a thousand but no one will never prove your point definitely. Only on panel comparisons can prove that nothing less than that. No arguments or opinions.

If the point being debated is stated in a handbook bio then as aforementioned any opinion to the contrary is irrelevant. The skyfathers are below the cube beings. The cube beings are below the likes of the Watchers, Stranger and Galactus. Read some F4 get clued up and stop underrating the Watchers.

Gs I truly didn't expect that kind of attitude from you. The Watchers are not above the Cubes, and the both might be above Skyfathers but by The End it seems that they are not. That is only supposed in their bios not stated and you know that. Until is proved is up to debates.

Read more about the Watchers and you will see that they were defeated more than one time and even by Quasar.

Originally posted by Diunic
Gs I truly didn't expect that kind of attitude from you. The Watchers are not above the Cubes, and the both might be above Skyfathers but by The End it seems that they are not. That is only supposed in their bios not stated and you know that. Until is proved is up to debates.

And i really wouldnt expect the aggression you've displayed on this thread to those who have merely disagreed with you.

I re-read the bio and admittedly my recollection of what was stated was not up to scratch. Something i have no problem admitting. The bio groups together the likes of the Watchers with the skyfathers whilst placing the cube beings above them but below the likes of the Celestials and abstracts.

Back to the topic in debate. Unless this is Pre Crisis DS as opposed to an avatar then DS loses.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Unless this is Pre Crisis DS as opposed to an avatar then DS loses.

^^^ Cosign. There is a big gap bewtween the watchers and the skyfathers, The whole Watcher race is far above skyfather and cube beings, and the cube beings are above skyfathers.

1. TOAA
2. Living Tribunal/Phoenix Force/Goblin Force/ True Beyonder
3. Infinities
4. Eternity/ Death/ Infinity/ Oblivion/ Full Powered Galactus/ Abraxas/ Exitar
5. Normal Galactus/ Arishem/ Black Celestail/ One Above All/ Aron" rogue watcher"/ Full Powered Tyrant/ Phoenix Avatars
6. Celestails/ Full Potentail Franklin Richards
7. The Watchers/ Chaos & Order/ Love & Hate/ Eon/
8. The Stranger/ In-Betweener/ Ego the living planet/ Nebula
9. Vishanti/Agamotto/ Osthur/ Hoggoth/ Shuma-Groth
10. Dormammu/ Umar/ Black Heart/ Mephisto
11. Cube Beings/ Molecule Man/ Kubik/Shaper of Worlds/ Kosmos(Beyonder)/ Demogorge
12. Elder Gods/ Atum the God Eater/ Set/ Chthon/ Gaea/ Rune King Thor/ Chronus" Father of Eternals"/Cyttorak
13. Asgardian Destroyer/ Odin/ Zeus/ Zuras/ Crom/ Tyrant/ King Thor/ Mangog/