Copying experience and intelligence was banned... Mimic never has, to my knowledge, ever copied thought patterns, experiences, etc. from anyone. Even if Scott's natural good aim is inbred, it's not a "power" per se... It just means he's smart in that particular area, just as Reed Richards naturally knows everything. Mimic's aim wouldn't be the same as Cyke's aim, because their minds are different.
Originally posted by stormfront13
doubtful...vindicator just turns the heat up around tony to the point his natural body can't take it.
IM absorbs heat and uses it to boost his energy reserves ... when there's a constant heat source he can constantly fire at full power:
Originally posted by stormfront13
it's doubtful that he could hurt her considering she has two powerful force-fields around her.
force fields do nothing against sonic attacks:
Plus he has his Uni-Beam which can emit blinding light (as well as force blasts)
Originally posted by stormfront13
also...vin has aurora to help distract tony.
Tony has holograms to distract Aurora:
Originally posted by stormfront13
also a ton of hardened rock constantly squeezing the force-field would weaken it as well..
Pretty hard to trap a guy in rock when he's in mid-air.... which he would be if he was attacked
Originally posted by stormfront13
don't forget that tony'll be fighting while not being able to see his opponents.
They'll be fighting while having no sense of balance (refer back to sonic weapons pic)
Originally posted by stormfront13
Thunderstrike can't take 500 punches a second from someone who has superhuman strength as well as metal claws.
Mimic has never shown the ability to do that, hell, after fighting Wolverine he was majorly f**ked up:
Originally posted by stormfront13
also, any electrical attack thunderstrike could use would just power mimic up. another thing is that mimic has two force-fields and is invisible as well.
I'm yet to be convinced that Cyclops can absorb electricity ... that scan you posted was in German (or something) and it could have said anything
I'm also not convinced that Phantazia can make all these people invisible to so many diverse technologies and physiology's at once... or at all
.... and where did Mimic get a second force field from?
Originally posted by stormfront13
you also have to take into account that everyone was weakened/taken out by the powered up optic blast at the very beginning. hermod and charcoal were more than likely taken out. then it's just basically 2 against 4.
My blasts are more powerful than yours plus at a mile away i have better aim and IM's pulse bolts will just get more and more powerful over distance
If anything it'll be your team who comes away with the most injuries... especially as Hermod and Charcoal are protected behind my other two guys
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
well then....this is....slow...and still no answer from scoobs.....who just happens to be on right now....
I had to go make some food
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Well since every new model is a marked improvement on the previous models it has to be the newest one... it's not like he leaves useful stuff out when he upgrades
I can show you scans of a newer model ripping an older one to pieces if you want
Everything i've been using in my arguments have been technologies that have been passed from armour to armour.... i'm not arguing for "SKIN" tech, Stealth armour or abladive(sp?) armour. I've been using standard abilities - Repulsors, Pulse bolts, Sensors, Shields, Uni-Beam, Holographic & Magnetic abilities.... i haven't even used missile launchers, or flamethrowers yet
Originally posted by Scoobless
IM absorbs heat and uses it to boost his energy reserves ... when there's a constant heat source he can constantly fire at full power:
which would be a good plan if the fire were actually touching iron-man. no fire is touching iron-man's suit, therefore nothing to absorb.
force fields do nothing against sonic attacks
yes, but when you also have sonic based attacks you can counterfire.
Tony has holograms to distract Aurora:
i'm assuming you mean hard-light projections, in which case wouldn't do much to aurora considering she can control hard light as well. that's where her concussize blasts come from.
Pretty hard to trap a guy in rock when he's in mid-air.... which he would be if he was attacked
not really, now when you can control a rocks movements.
They'll be fighting while having no sense of balance (refer back to sonic weapons pic)
not when you can counter sonic attacks with your own.
Mimic has never shown the ability to do that, hell, after fighting Wolverine he was majorly f**ked up:
with aurora he does.
I'm yet to be convinced that Cyclops can absorb electricity ... that scan you posted was in German (or something) and it could have said anything
what excactey would you have liked it to say? it showed him absorbing all the electricity storm could summon at once.
I'm also not convinced that Phantazia can make all these people invisible to so many diverse technologies and physiology's at once... or at all
why not? she isn't affecting the technology/person or anything she's using a cloaking field which technology, human sencses, and telepathy can't seem to get through.
.... and where did Mimic get a second force field from?
phantazia, it's part of the cloaking field.
Copying experience and intelligence was banned... Mimic never has, to my knowledge, ever copied thought patterns, experiences, etc. from anyone. Even if Scott's natural good aim is inbred, it's not a "power" per se... It just means he's smart in that particular area, just as Reed Richards naturally knows everything. Mimic's aim wouldn't be the same as Cyke's aim, because their minds are different.
just so your clear...i'm not arguing that mimic should have that ability...i'm just saying that it's more of an ability/power than something that was practiced throughout the years.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=66
^^here's the spotlight on cyke.
Originally posted by stormfront13
which would be a good plan if the fire were actually touching iron-man. no fire is touching iron-man's suit, therefore nothing to absorb.
It absorbs heat (or infra-red energy)... it doesn't have to have flames touching the armour
Originally posted by stormfront13
yes, but when you also have sonic based attacks you can counterfire.
IM's helmet filters light and sound so that those assaults are ineffective against him
Originally posted by stormfront13
i'm assuming you mean hard-light projections
No, they're immaterial, they can't affect anything on the battlefield physically.... but they're good for splitting an enemies attention
Originally posted by stormfront13
not really, now when you can control a rocks movements.
Everyone on my team is too strong to be trapped within a layer of rock
Originally posted by stormfront13
not when you can counter sonic attacks with your own.
Using your own sonics doesn't protect you from IM's.... he's basically using the same power Vertigo uses
Originally posted by stormfront13
with aurora he does.
well with Northstar he never once attacked anyone with superspeed punches, i see no reason to accept that he would suddenly be able to do it now with an almost identical power
Originally posted by stormfront13
what excactey would you have liked it to say? it showed him absorbing all the electricity storm could summon at once.
I'd like it to be in English... failing that, i'd like someone to translate it
Originally posted by stormfront13
why not? she isn't affecting the technology/person or anything she's using a cloaking field which technology, human sencses, and telepathy can't seem to get through.
She's using electrical powers to attempt to render herself invisible to some of the highest tech on earth, a unique meta-human who is unaffected by electrical fields and two gods
I just don't believe she can do it
NEW STRATEGY...sort of.
PREP: phantazia, and aurora power mimic up. and right before the fight starts phantazia cloaks every one in the invisibility field.
at the very beginning of the fight, mimic unleashes the optic blast, which is still powered up but not to the extent it was before. it Marjory distracts and damages the other team. hermod and charcoal were more than likely taken out, and thunderstrike is damaged. also i'm assuming tony is in a force-field and the force-field would have been weakened. don't forget that three medium to high level optic blasts levelled galactus in exiles. so a powered up one is not to be taken lightly.
anyway...hermod was weakened so aurora uses her speed and reaction time to go at him while vindicator rushes iron-man, tony goes after thunderstrike, and phantazia takes charcoal.
now if charcoal wasn't taken out then he was very weakened. one bio-blast which would disable his powers and one force-field push off the train would be enough to take him out. keep in mind it only takes one blast to do this and she is full capable of this while still surrounding her teammates. after she takes out charcoal she just assists everyone else with bio-blasts which do damage to the opponent, disables their powers, and disables their body as well all at once if she wills it to.
now the blast probably definitely took out hermod and if it didn't, then it severely weakened him. auaora is just as fast as him...but the difference here is that he doesn't have the room to maneuver where as aurora has the whole sky to fly around in. another disadvantage is that aurora has two very powerful long ranged attacks, can blind hermod, and hermod can't see who he's fighting. a couple of concussive blasts here, a couple electrical blasts there and he's thrown out of the train. also hermod has no way of hurting aurora because he can't reach her, and none of his little projectiles would ever hit her, and she could just blast them off track if she wants to. also he doesn't know where to throw anything to hit her. in the first 2 minutes of the fight it's already 2 against 4.
vindicator has tons of experience dealing with people like iron-man, and she's faced worse and come out on top. iron-man is still a man inside of a suit and his human body can't take heat of 500 degrees which vin can raise the temperature to in seconds. yes you showed scans of iron-man absorbing fire and heat energy...but in this scenario no fire or heat every is going top be touching the suit...so he has nothing to absorb. and i also doubt his absorbing skills because his armor has melted in the past on many occasions. it's just a matter of seconds/minutes before tony passes out due to the heat. after he's out he's thrown off the train as well. also it's doubtful that tony will be able to damage vindicator because she is invisible, surrounded by two force-fields, and can counter any sonics/blasts with her own.
thunderstrike is a bit more tricky..but with the combined help of phantazia, aurora, mimic, and eventually vindicator he's definitely going down.
Originally posted by Scoobless
It absorbs heat (or infra-red energy)... it doesn't have to have flames touching the armour
it absorbs something that has no form? doesn't make much sense, it's be like trying to absorb air.
No, they're immaterial, they can't affect anything on the battlefield physically.... but they're good for splitting an enemies attention
well...either way one energy blast through them and yuou've figured out which one is real
he's basically using the same power Vertigo uses
and yet vertigos powers aren't that powerful, and can be blocked by will power and can't go through force-fields
She's using electrical powers to attempt to render herself invisible to some of the highest tech on earth, a unique meta-human who is unaffected by electrical fields and two gods
the electrical fields aren't being used against charcoal. there is the reason as to why he wouldn't be able to see. and why would a god be able to see them unless they actually had that ability? anyway, i have a new stragety up.
Originally posted by stormfront13
NEW STRATEGY...sort of.PREP: phantazia, and aurora power mimic up. and right before the fight starts phantazia cloaks every one in the invisibility field.
at the very beginning of the fight, mimic unleashes the optic blast, which is still powered up but not to the extent it was before. it Marjory distracts and damages the other team. hermod and charcoal were more than likely taken out, and thunderstrike is damaged. also i'm assuming tony is in a force-field and the force-field would have been weakened. don't forget that three medium to high level optic blasts levelled galactus in exiles. so a powered up one is not to be taken lightly.
anyway...hermod was weakened so aurora uses her speed and reaction time to go at him while vindicator rushes iron-man, tony goes after thunderstrike, and phantazia takes charcoal.
now if charcoal wasn't taken out then he was very weakened. one bio-blast which would disable his powers and one force-field push off the train would be enough to take him out. keep in mind it only takes one blast to do this and she is full capable of this while still surrounding her teammates. after she takes out charcoal she just assists everyone else with bio-blasts which do damage to the opponent, disables their powers, and disables their body as well all at once if she wills it to.
now the blast probably definitely took out hermod and if it didn't, then it severely weakened him. auaora is just as fast as him...but the difference here is that he doesn't have the room to maneuver where as aurora has the whole sky to fly around in. another disadvantage is that aurora has two very powerful long ranged attacks, can blind hermod, and hermod can't see who he's fighting. a couple of concussive blasts here, a couple electrical blasts there and he's thrown out of the train. also hermod has no way of hurting aurora because he can't reach her, and none of his little projectiles would ever hit her, and she could just blast them off track if she wants to. also he doesn't know where to throw anything to hit her. in the first 2 minutes of the fight it's already 2 against 4.
vindicator has tons of experience dealing with people like iron-man, and she's faced worse and come out on top. iron-man is still a man inside of a suit and his human body can't take heat of 500 degrees which vin can raise the temperature to in seconds. yes you showed scans of iron-man absorbing fire and heat energy...but in this scenario no fire or heat every is going top be touching the suit...so he has nothing to absorb. and i also doubt his absorbing skills because his armor has melted in the past on many occasions. it's just a matter of seconds/minutes before tony passes out due to the heat. after he's out he's thrown off the train as well. also it's doubtful that tony will be able to damage vindicator because she is invisible, surrounded by two force-fields, and can counter any sonics/blasts with her own.
thunderstrike is a bit more tricky..but with the combined help of phantazia, aurora, mimic, and eventually vindicator he's definitely going down.
Your team isn't invisible
Iron Man's armour can take any heat you can dish out
Charcoal won't be affected by your electrical "bio-blast"
Galactus was not taken out by optic blasts
Cyclops blast loses power over distance, at 1 mile half Cyclops level blast will be nothing more than an irritant to TS... especially as it will lose even more energy with everything it hits on the way through the train
Hermod and Charcoal would not have been damaged by this blast as they're behind two extremely durable beings
Asgardians wont be affected by this electrical "bio-blast" as their powers are magical in nature
Using any of your own sonic weapons wont protect you from IM's
Originally posted by stormfront13
it absorbs something that has no form? doesn't make much sense, it's be like trying to absorb air.
More like absorbing a radiant form of energy... which is what it does
Originally posted by stormfront13
well...either way one energy blast through them and yuou've figured out which one is real
And once you've figured out one is fake you move on to the next one of ten, the first one moves and you're not sure which ones you've checked... then the real one knocks you out
Originally posted by stormfront13
and yet vertigos powers aren't that powerful, and can be blocked by will power and can't go through force-fields
I said similar to Vertigo's powers... in that they cause disorientation by affecting the inner ear... you may be able to stay conscious but your aim will be screwed up... and you may throw up..... a lot
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Originally posted by stormfront13
the electrical fields aren't being used against charcoal. there is the reason as to why he wouldn't be able to see. and why would a god be able to see them unless they actually had that ability? anyway, i have a new stragety up.
The only way you can claim an electrical field wielding mutant can render herself invisible to others is to directly affect them with her powers.... if she can't do that (which she can't here) then she can't appear invisible to him
Why would a god be affected in the same way as a human by an electrical field when they have insanely better resistance against electrical and radioactive energies?
Originally posted by Scooblesswell with Northstar he never once attacked anyone with superspeed punches, i see no reason to accept that he would suddenly be able to do it now with an almost identical power
Yes, he did. He once attacked Hulk, Sasquath (not sure about that one) and Paulie Provenzano with them.
So SF is right about that.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Yes, he did. He once attacked Hulk, Sasquath (not sure about that one) and Paulie Provenzano with them.So SF is right about that.
Yeah, by doing so hurt the Hulk, Sasquatch and even against Ravanger landed a thousand blows in a second. With his super punches he even knocked out Paulie Provenzano
Actually there are many other scenes when he did this skill, he even destroyed a spaceship by doing this.
Originally posted by Scoobless
you got an issue number?
Sasquatch [Alpha Flight #12]
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight12-19.jpg
Hulk [Alpha Flight #29]
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF29.jpg
Ravanger [Marvel Two-In-One #84]
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_22.jpg
Paulie [Uncanny X-Men #392]
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/UXM392_16.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/UXM392_17.jpg
Aurora attacking Weapon X director [Weapon X #22 [Vol.2]]
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Image005.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Image006.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sasquatch [Alpha Flight #12]
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight12-19.jpgHulk [Alpha Flight #29]
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF29.jpgRavanger [Marvel Two-In-One #84]
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_22.jpgPaulie [Uncanny X-Men #392]
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/UXM392_16.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/UXM392_17.jpgAurora attacking Weapon X director [Weapon X #22 [Vol.2]]
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Image005.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Image006.jpg
I'm talking about Mimic, not Northstar.... Mimic never once used superspeed to attack anyone.... other than a straight line flying tackle
um...everyone I'm sorry about this but it's not going to be a very entertaining match. the "family business" that i had to take care of last week was my grandmothers funeral, which was last Saturday. I'm not 100% over it and I'm the only one in my family who can take enough time off work to take care of my grandfather . as some people say once your "soul-mate" is gone...you lose all will to do anything. I haven't been trying at all, and the only reason i keep posting is in hope it will take my mind off the situation. anyway...I'm NOT giving up, because i hate doing that, I'm just going to let everyone look at the teams and strategies that we had in this and last matches and vote on who they think will win. i don't think I'll really be posting after this so good luck scoob, I'd imagine your winning this round and i hope you go on to win the finals.
