Originally posted by thesilverspider
Doubt it she's never around when shit hits the fan. 🙁
Rubbish. What about the M'kraan crystal incident? That threatened to wipe out the entire multiverse. Bigger threat than the two sagas youre referring to. What about saving the previous universe from eternal damnation? Its presumably down to differing jurisdiction. Regardless the Phoenix has been around for cosmic threats and as Ill said you dont really have a leg to stand on.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Rubbish. What about the M'kraan crystal incident? That threatened to wipe out the entire multiverse. Bigger threat than the two sagas youre referring to. What about saving the previous universe from eternal damnation? Its presumably down to differing jurisdiction. Regardless the Phoenix has been around for cosmic threats and as Ill said you dont really have a leg to stand on.
Originally posted by leonidas
in your opinion . . .no evidence to convincingly say yes OR no . . .
Question: Has any bearer of the ALE ever been depicted bypassing a universal barrier created by a multiversal protector being with the sole purpose of quarantining the universe the ALE bearer was in from the rest of the multiverse?
If not, there's no evidence that Darkseid or anyone with the ALE couldn't simply be trapped in the 616 or whatever universe they crossed over into.
This "canon evidence" razor cuts both ways, and I personally feel things have gone to far around here. These are purely hypothetical scenarios we all discuss, and everyone is all of a sudden looking for concrete 'canon' evidence that in truth is both subjective and circumstantial.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Rubbish. What about the M'kraan crystal incident? That threatened to wipe out the entire multiverse. Bigger threat than the two sagas youre referring to. What about saving the previous universe from eternal damnation? Its presumably down to differing jurisdiction. Regardless the Phoenix has been around for cosmic threats and as Ill said you dont really have a leg to stand on.
And so it begins...
Originally posted by illadelph12
Question: Has any bearer of the ALE ever been depicted bypassing a universal barrier created by a multiversal protector being with the sole purpose of quarantining the universe the ALE bearer was in from the rest of the multiverse?If not, there's no evidence that Darkseid or anyone with the ALE couldn't simply be trapped in the 616 or whatever universe they crossed over into.
This "canon evidence" razor cuts both ways, and I personally feel things have gone to far around here. These are purely hypothetical scenarios we all discuss, and everyone is all of a sudden looking for concrete 'canon' evidence that in truth is both subjective and circumstantial.
galact-ILL . . .
illa-STORM . . .
damn, monsters roam these waters . . . 🙁
PF is megaversal from what galactic storm says she's the only one i see stopping him and LT being taken advantage of is pathetic he cant even do his job i guess is that the new excuse? Oh well i mean i got about infinite more universes to take care of i dont really care about this one ill just go on and leave i dont have time to make people feel the power of...THE LIVING JOBB.......I MEAN TRIBUNAL
shows how much you know about the ALE or Darkseid how can death hurt him if he cant die he is essential to the universe and if he dies universe will die as well. and with the ALE he would own death, second of all when has death owned anyone ist the real question who hasnt owned death, elders of the universe owned her making her chained up and lose her realm, strange owend her with power of the vishanti, in-betweener owned her who is maybe equal to galactus and galactus is equal to darkseid.
Do we even know if ALE is gonna work in MU? Seeing how this ain't no neutral dimension, wouldn't it technically be worthless in MU if JLA/Avengers count in continuity? I mean speedforce was non-existant for flash in MU, then Darkseid realized IG didn't also work in DCU, how would the ALE even be any different?
If it doesn't work, then he'll get his ass handed to him by some entities lower in the food chain than LT and the Phoenix.
first of if you can bring us just one shread of evidence that the PF is nothing to the LT please do since no one has EVER in my time here brought anything to show this sept that one in the What If were LT held ONE avatar that means nothing to the PF who resides in the white hot room i would hope, underestimate LT isnt it true you overesimate him isnt it true that you all think he is unbeatable just cause of whats been said about him but not one panal feet exists in my knowledge to show that he is anything more then a wannabe omnipatent who is only a little above eternity. Also this jobber when has he ever come to fight for the universes he is suppose to protect, hmmm did he come to save all reality when the infinites were gonna rearange it even eternity was nothing to the infinites they were gonna rearange ALL reality from what i can remeber. Isnt it also true that the LT was to scared to go up against korvac what excuse do you have for him abandoning the universe that he was appointed to defend if he is so powerful couldnt he have snaped his fingers and fixed everything yet he was left hopeless saying that korvac could not be stoped by his judgements. This is also the same LT that doubts his power against the IG. the ALE for example is probably multiversal i have no proof but it probably is. The LT is nothing he is replaced in the cycle of the universe by the PF and even eternity said so. As ive stated there are no feats or proof to make the LT anyone anymore he is now the living jobber he cant do anything but say this and that and look fancy but in the end does nothing.