simple, practically every x man issue had a feat in em for nate{that and the onslaught saga} {i cant be bothered to look up each page and issue, i DO have a life u know, unlike gs} the cable feats happened in cable/deadpool, {where he broke the surfer's boards and survived two point blank bullets to the head because of his psionic energy etc}
GS wont have squat as long as it doesnt help his argument.
Originally posted by thesilverspider
Leo Leo Leo its useless the guy is just talking out his ass....... 🙁
as opposed to sucking upto and talkin out of sum1 else's ass because the words coming out of your mouth have so little significance an weight. and all to try and take ME down. jeez im flattered.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
simple, practically every x man issue had a feat in em for nate{that and the onslaught saga} {i cant be bothered to look up each page and issue, i DO have a life u know, unlike gs} the cable feats happened in cable/deadpool, {where he broke the surfer's boards and survived two point blank bullets to the head because of his psionic energy etc}GS wont have squat as long as it doesnt help his argument.
actually, even though you guys don't much get along, gs is quite impartial and even admits nowadays if he's wrong! where did the moira mactaggert thing happen? and from what i've read and seen in scans (never read the issue myself) i hear ss was pretty much toying with cable in their fight.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
i havent got a scanner. but its been validated again n again moira mctaggart said that CABLE could eat stars at full potential, n as its been proven that nate is greater than cable{n please dont go into that debate again, sum people cant accept the fact that nate is superior to cable} which means that he can do the same stuf and MORE. moira mctaggart also said that nate can potentially surpass dark phoenix power levels. nate even at such a low potential that he had practically no control of his powers forced xavier out of the astral plane, sumthin xavier thought was impossible{remember that in the astral plane, xavier battled and broke through the mind of GALACTUS thas how powerful he is in the astral plane}. nate also at the same meager potential {with the aging virus} created a physical suit of armour which destroyed armageddon{o watever apocalypse's sons name was} who had no upper stength level like hulk. at the same potential he froze time unknowingly at a scale which left the experienced cable in AWE. at the same time, he was having dreams of accidently destroying earth in his sleep as his power was growing at such an alarming rate. he was also in mental contact with every being on the planet. nate battled and killed exodus and wouldv easilu killed magneto if cyclops hadnt stopped him. he detected and forced out the power and telepathy of THANOS from the hulk, proving that his psyche was above that of thanos. he also rescued xavier from onslaught. also we can see cable's current power level for direct reference{although nate is higher} cable has opened wormholes and blacholes, broken the surfer's board with reletive ease among many other things. nate also resurrected every being on the planet{even microscopic} and refilled their depleted life forces which the harveters stole, now its no secret as to how hard it is to resurrect sum1, its taxing even on an elder as powerful as the grand master. but nate did it, and along with it also destroyed the harvesters who were powerful enough to harvest entire planets of their life forcesbefore{a bit like galactus if u ask me}. nate was other than franklin richards{and later PIS induces anda} the most powerful muitant ever made. sinister genetically altered his dna as to get the most powerful combination of jean and scott's dna. who were then thought to be the most powerful jean pools{and it also makes sense that nate would inherit the phoenix force as he was jean's and not madeline's direct and most powerful pffspring which only adds to moira's prediction. oh hey did i mention nate casually blasted away a safehouse built to take direct hits from tactical nuclear weapons? and most of this he did while having so little control and development of power that it gav him nozebleeds and could kill him, and with the aging virus in him.
Yes, Moira MacTaggart did state that Nathan Grey, as well as Nathan Summers, possessed psionic potential that rivaled that of the Dark Phoenix. It was in Cable vo.2 issue #29. Jeph Loeb wrote the issue. I believe, Leonhart, I presented that " evidence " to you in one of " Nate Grey vs. Cable " threads in great detail. Before you told me it was nonsense.. I see you're finally absorbing the information I imparted on you. Glad to read it.
Also, it was stated that Cable had the psionic potential to extinguish stars with little more than a concious effort and read a stray thought a continet away. But not by Moira MacTaggart. Rachel Summers told that to him in The Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix vol.1 issue #4.
I like how some of the information which is true is nothing more than facts I've been tossing at you for awhile now. But to state them as you know them first hand? That's a bit sad. Anyone here can check the X-Man vs. Cable threads and see I've stated these facts before. Nice try.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
those smileys do not even equate you, let alone every1. and as far as the idiots who do laugh, i assure you{you included now} that theyv been laughing for a long time, on what, theyr not sure themselves. they just laugh and laugh when every1 is out havin fun or screwin around and as soon as sum1 who actually has a life comes into view they say, WEVE BEEN LAUGHING AT YOU cause we can laugh, HAHA!and start laughing even harder, every day this goes on, never ending. its sad really. masking up misery and sorrow with insane aimless laughter.
What the hell are you talking about? Quit rambling and give issues and pages so at least other people can get scans. Don't be a troll, and don't assume about people's lives, because once again, you have no idea what you're talking about.
RKT wins 10/10 everytime he see xman, RKT has to much raw power cosmic and mystical (Rune). Hell he killed Mangog who is a skyfather level being with gesture 🤨 do you think he will do to Xman, he will burn out Xman in battle, Thor has fought for months with out getting tired and that was against Zeus a skyfather who is above Xman and RKT is above Zeus.
Originally posted by the Darkonethis is king thor not rkt.
RKT wins 10/10 everytime he see xman, RKT has to much raw power cosmic and mystical (Rune). Hell he killed Mangog who is a skyfather level being with gesture 🤨 do you think he will do to Xman, he will burn out Xman in battle, Thor has fought for months with out getting tired and that was against Zeus a skyfather who is above Xman and RKT is above Zeus.
nathan i havent DENIED what you have stated about cable. ALL i said was that nate is all that cable is AND MORE. i never refuted that nate will reach dark phoenix power levels o said that people can interpret things in different ways and to try n prove that statement as being ridiculous many said that moira said that nate would surpass the PHOENIX FORCE, which was ridiculous and i said that he wouldnt surpass the phoenix {force} but would only surpass the physical phoenix{dark phoenix/jan} power levels. back on topic nate wins.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
^ Not really. Read up more on the Odinforce. Also, full power Nate is Full Power Cable, who got owned by the Silver Surfer. Also, Nate got owned by Cable as well, so that really doesn't work either. To be honest, King Thor is beyond the level of Shaman Nate Grey. Sorry.
LMAO! my simple minded friend, do some research before saying sumthin stupid like that. when cable has NEVER even come CLOSE to reaching his full potential. and he was HOLDING BACK when he fought surfer because of the parasite i his body and because he always fears his ever growing power. still he managed to destroy surfer's board without much effort at all{a feat only achieved by galactus and morg with waters of life with effort till now th board is AS INDESTRUCTABLE AS SURFER} cable made quite sure that he did not want to fight. and he was recreating the entire rather large scenario that surfer was destroying. and i wouldnt call the destruction of an average class 2o biomachenical arm as OWNING. nate NEVER got owned by cable, cable worked nate{a ver VERY inexpirienced and unstable nate} up into such a rage that nate lost control and OVERLOADED HIMSELF. it was a strategy NOT power. and nate is superior to cable as he has the ful potential of the jean/scott gene pool unlike cable who was a random offfspring and combination of genes.
^ Are you going to make a point or just keep babbling? Read through Cable/Deadpool from the first issue to the last issue and tell me again that Cable was struggling with the bio-organic disease. He also admitted in the fight with the Surfer that he was giving everything, so there goes that statement. Also, the whole Nate vs Cable fight was ownage, because Cable is damn smarter than Nate. You need to do some research and come back to this one, because by no way, shape, or form is Shaman Nate Grey durable enough, strong enough, or powerful enough to defeat King Thor. If you're going to prove me wrong, you need scans and issue numbers, because without them, you're just a fanboy making a dumb claim.
Intresting match.
At one point I believed that Jesus (or God Like) Cable>Shaman X-Man.
I no longer believe so, Shaman X-Man is possibly the most powerful Nate in all the realities.
It’s a bit hard to gauge how powerful he became (his upper limits).
And weather his comparisons to Dark Phoenix in raw power should be taken as fact or poetic phrase.
What we do know is that he wilds enormous power that could match the likes of King Thor, . But his body can't handle such power, and he risks burning himself out if he overexerts himself.