Exar Kun vs DE Luke and DE Sidious

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Exar Kun vs DE Luke and DE Sidious

Who wins?

Anything goes, all of them are in their prime, during their time.

The duo get WTFpwned.

I think combined force can take him. Sideous keeps em busy with force. Luke flanks him.

Sidious keeps him busy? LMAO, Kun will either blast him into smithereens or sabre rape him. Luke is a virtual nonfactor here...

Well what if the ol' geezer blasts Kun with a fleet destroying blast of is own first? And DE luke is nothing to slouch, regardless of my hate toward him...

What? The amulet can be used over and over again with no recharge time. If this is going to be some kind of wild west shootout, Kun will win as the force storm requires time to charge up.

Kun can theoretically blast Sidious and then tool Luke...

Yet, the evidence of the amulet blasts affecting force users is a unknown, as you said "theoretically" does not make it so, however i still think Kun tools them both with force powers or lightsaber superiority

Affecting force users? Why wouldn't it? It lets out a giant energy beam, the only people I can see having a defence against it are the Ancient Sith...

In that case, DN Luke would be wiped out, something many people dont agree, but i do.

Exar Kun rips them apart.

Originally posted by w00t2112
Yet, the evidence of the amulet blasts affecting force users is a unknown, as you said "theoretically" does not make it so, however i still think Kun tools them both with force powers or lightsaber superiority

Freedon Nadd seemed to have no answer for it. It's not like you can attack Sith Spirits usually, JA Luke (which is after DE) seemed to have plenty of trouble getting rid of Exar Kun's spirit. It did affect a powerful Sith Spirit, it's empowered by the dark side, so why wouldn't it affect a force user?

Originally posted by w00t2112
In that case, DN Luke would be wiped out, something many people dont agree, but i do.

Well in that case I can say emerald lightning can affect force users only to have Kun fanboys tell me that it is a unknown... So how are you going to rate Kun's amulet blasts above emerald lightning and vice versa?

Originally posted by tdtd
Well in that case I can say emerald lightning can affect force users only to have Kun fanboys tell me that it is a unknown... So how are you going to rate Kun's amulet blasts above emerald lightning and vice versa?

It was a matter of opinion, i have not gone and said, it definitely affects force users, but killing a monster as opposed as a Vong is certianly more impressive.

Depends on your point of view. I would say killing someone who is not of this world and not in the force is more impressive, and doing it with his hands instead of an amulet.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Freedon Nadd seemed to have no answer for it. It's not like you can attack Sith Spirits usually, JA Luke (which is after DE) seemed to have plenty of trouble getting rid of Exar Kun's spirit. It did affect a powerful Sith Spirit, it's empowered by the dark side, so why wouldn't it affect a force user?

I think this answers it. If Kun can WTFpwn Nadd's powerful spirit with the amulet, it stands to reason that it IS effective against force users, whereas Luke's emerald lightning isn't.

Btw, everything you've ever said about that lightning, tdtd, has been almost word for word from Wookieepedia.

What does it matter champ? It exists? Youre going to deny it's existence? You have to treat Kun's amulet blasts the same way you treat the Emerald Lightning. Since it's all speculation either they both work on force users or they don't.

Originally posted by tdtd
What does it matter champ? It exists? Youre going to deny it's existence? You have to treat Kun's amulet blasts the same way you treat the Emerald Lightning. Since it's all speculation either they both work on force users or they don't.

No, it's not. The amulet was used against Freedan Nadd, who could WTFpwn force users even as a spirit. And keep in mind that this spirit was considered "powerless" compared to his tangible living form. If Freedan Nadd, patron of Onderon and disciple of Naga Sadow couldn't defend against it in the hands of Exar Kun, I highly doubt that DN Luke will fare better.

And on the flip side, Luke's emerald lightning appears to have worked on a nonforce sensitive. That would be like seeing Sidious only shock a regular human and then deduce that Yoda couldn't catch it with his bare hands. It's a false conclusion.

Well he did use it against a being outside of the force, and if other force attacks didn't work against them its quite impressive. We also don't really know if the Amulet could have done shit against Nadd if he was still alive. Actually I'm pretty sure it couldn't have Nadd seems pretty uber. But it is logical to assume that the amulet would at least hurt a force user. To say it would instantly kill them on impact however... I wouldn't be to sure about that.

Well, maybe not the fireball itself, but the hatred it channels can affect a force user even as sly and powerful as Nadd, which is really saying something. And while Luke's emerald lightning might be a potent attack, it also might be something Kun can easily absorb or reflect. We just have no instance of it being used on a force user, so it's effect is in question.

Correct, as we don't know if Luke could or could not defend against it.