Batman and Nightwing vs. Elektra and DD

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well along with Daredevil, Elektra was trained by stick and knows the ways of the Chaste. That includes a certain level of telekenesis as well as being able to sense others in the area. Sense the Chi or body movements. Beats me how they do it. 😬 either way the "stealth" may not work on her either. Now youre reaching and bringing Movies into this? First off, Daredevil was disturbed by gongs from a bell while in the comics, hes endured much worse such as choppers, cars and other things blowing up less than 10 feet from him. Batman is smart indeed but like i said in their first mixup, Bats didnt realize till much after the fight. With DD all in his face throwing punches and kicks, theres now way for him to figure it out then and there. Plus as smart as Batman is, he wouldnt risk throwing a sonic and have it effect Himself as well as Nightwing while hes fighting Elektra. Unless he just throws one and hope him and NW recover before DD and Elektra does. But i doubt hed take that risk.

^yea

Originally posted by Juntai
Acting like Batman is going to mess himself up now? lol. Please, it never affected him before, obviously something he has protects himself from the ill affects. Likewise, Nightwing has worked with Batman a lot since he was a small child. I'm sure he'd understand the tactic and take precaution.

I didnt know Batman usually wears something that would protect him from a sonic without prep. Either way, does Nightwing usually wear something that protects him from a sonic device? Neither of them know Daredevil has enhanced hearing. Youre sure Nightwing would understand the tactic and take precaution? Lol. Whats the tactic and precaution? "Ill throw a sonic 20 seconds into battle. You got your earplugs handy?"

Originally posted by jrodslam
I didnt know Batman usually wears something that would protect him from a sonic without prep. Either way, does Nightwing usually wear something that protects him from a sonic device? Neither of them know Daredevil has enhanced hearing. Youre sure Nightwing would understand the tactic and take precaution? Lol. Whats the tactic and precaution? "Ill throw a sonic 20 seconds into battle. You got your earplugs handy?"

Even Batman and his long dead Robin Jason Todd fight as fluid as water is. Able to read eachothers moves and react accordingly [already working to set up measures and countermeasures and follow up moves].
That's a huge advantage in a fight.
Having worked with your teammate nightly for over a decade.

Originally posted by Juntai
Once he seen it produced, to move out of proximity maybe, for an example?
Whats with the cheesy imagination? lol. The sonics are part of Batman's primary suit. It's not a special thing he got. It's specified as part of his night to night artillery both in Guide to the Dark Knight and the Ultimate Training Manual.

Even Batman and his long dead Robin Jason Todd fight as fluid as water is. Able to read eachothers moves and react accordingly [already working to set up measures and countermeasures and follow up moves].
That's a huge advantage in a fight.
Having worked with your teammate nightly for over a decade.

Ahh cheesy imagination you say? So Nightwing who is fighting Elektra whos arguably better skilled than Daredevil, takes the time to notice Batman pulling a sonic to throw in the area and clears out of the way? While you have 2 opponents(one who can sense every movement before its done) who stand there in awe and get caught up in a sonic? Ok i get it now. Nightwing gets clear while DD and Elektra are dumfounded?😬

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ahh cheesy imagination you say? So Nightwing who is fighting Elektra whos arguably better skilled than Daredevil, takes the time to notice Batman pulling a sonic to throw in the area and clears out of the way? While you have 2 opponents(one who can sense every movement before its done) who stand there in awe and get caught up in a sonic? Ok i get it now. Nightwing gets clear while DD and Elektra are dumfounded?😬

Batman and Nightwing don't fight like idiots.

They fight perfect together. That will get the them win, imo.

Nice to try and turn it on me though. 😉

Originally posted by Juntai
I dunno, the sonic grenade wasn't my idea, I was just clarifying that this team is certainly capable of it without bumbling over themselves and falling prey to their own tactic like you were describing.

Batman and Nightwing don't fight like idiots.

They fight perfect together. That will get the them win, imo.

Nice to try and turn it on me though. 😉

No no Juntai. Im not saying at all that Bats or NW WONT throw a sonic. Im just saying that i dont think its likely that they will throw one.

I agree that Bats and NW dont fight like idiots, but neither do DD and Elektra. Plus DD would probably hear it before it goes off anyway and get clear as well. If Elektra is fighting NW and she see's NW jump clear of range suddenly, id assume shed follow.

I wasnt trying to turn anything on you buddy.😄

Certainly believable arguements on both sides of the ball.

I personally like the "Castling" tactic the other guy mentioned. Switching opponents.

My opinion is that Nightwing and Daredevil are pretty close to equals, Daredevil gets an edge because of supersenses, Dick gets it from a decade or so of training with the prince of darkness himself. They'd be much better paired up, especially given their acrobatics [not that the other two characters can't be bouncy when they want to, but these two are more accustomed to it.]

And Bruce smashes Electra as soon as he feels like doing it. Then helps out Dick, who's certainly experienced enough to take Matt on, given he's been a hero since childhood, and he's in his prime years of fitness right now.

ya know, this really IS a good fight, but IMO i just gotta say batman and nightwing on this one

Juntai, Daredevil was training as a child as well and has trained under Stick on and off for about a decade as well. You think Bats can beat Elektra easily? Hmm.

^not easily, but yes why? much smarter, more weapons and gadgets and such, stealth(which i dont know would work due to enhanced ninja senses but w/e i read somewhere that batman has enhanced senses too through ninja training), much stronger, more advanced in martial arts, the power of fear

Originally posted by jrodslam
Juntai, Daredevil was training as a child as well and has trained under Stick on and off for about a decade as well. You think Bats can beat Elektra easily? Hmm.

Originally posted by Juntai
But Stick isn't Batman and like I said, that's also part of their teamwork level.. And yes I do. If he can topple Batgirl in a few gestures when angry, he can certainly do it to Electra.

Now how can i argue with that? 🙁

Originally posted by jrodslam
Now how can i argue with that? 🙁

bump

Batman and Nightwing.

Batman and Nightwing 8/10, aided greatly by their arsenal of weapons. 😉

Batman and Nightwing, definitely. DD is a non-factor in this.

It's an all out battle of the Martial Arts. I assume this means that Batman has no gear with him correct? Any way DD and Elektra win easily. Matt is almost as skilled as Batman, and physically (seeing has he is as strong as Bruce yet as fast and agile as Dick) he has him out classed. Elektra is bascily Lady Shiva with low level telepathy among other quasi mystical ninja abilities coupled with low level superhuman, speed and agility.

The Marvel team cleans house.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
It's an all out battle of the Martial Arts. I assume this means that Batman has no gear with him correct? Any way DD and Elektra win easily. Matt is almost as skilled as Batman, and physically (seeing has he is as strong as Bruce yet as fast and agile as Dick) he has him out classed. Elektra is bascily Lady Shiva with low level telepathy among other quasi mystical ninja abilities coupled with low level superhuman, speed and agility.

The Marvel team cleans house.

Originally posted by batdude123
[B]With all of their gadgets and weapons in their arsenal, I don't see how they could lose. [/B]