Darth Vader runs the gauntlet!

Started by Gamblor4 pages

When he's being choked? I've never seen anyone engage saber combat while being force gripped.

Anyways, he's just getting used to his suit in RODV. In Purge, he saber rapes two Jedi Knights instantly, then force pushes a Master across the room while engaging two other Masters and one Knight in saber combat.

Originally posted by Gamblor
When he's being choked? I've never seen anyone engage saber combat while being force gripped.

Who have you seen being Force gripped? Padme and some Imperial Officers?

Anyways, he's just getting used to his suit in RODV. In Purge, he saber rapes two Jedi Knights instantly, then force pushes a Master across the room while engaging two other Masters and one Knight in saber combat.

Yes, and that's uncanon bullshit. Ask anyone else on here except Guy LeDouche, that is total bullshit, plus that happened before RODV and at the beginning of that book he had trouble against one respectable Knight.

Obi-Wan Kenobi, by Dooku.

Of course it's not canon, it's EU. It would be an infinity, if there were things that specifically contradicted it.

Good grief ppl, must you all squabble over these petty matters? I ask is it worth it? Darth Vader is the shit (excuse my language) and I believe he is able to own all of the established gauntlet. and whats the deal with Darth Bandon, he is a glorified video game boss that could not beat vader period. with or without sith troopers. Heck, Vader would kill them outright with his mind then school bandon. And maul, yes i believe he was phenominal lightsaber wielder, but Vader would still kill him.

Just because Vader is the ultimate badass, and just because it would be satifying to watch him pwn everyone doesn't mean he's a combat God in EU continuity.

acknowledged, Im not much on "EU" anyways

Originally posted by Gamblor
When he's being choked? I've never seen anyone engage saber combat while being force gripped.

Anyways, he's just getting used to his suit in RODV. In Purge, he saber rapes two Jedi Knights instantly, then force pushes a Master across the room while engaging two other Masters and one Knight in saber combat.

Erm, in purge he beats a rage filled Jedi who charges to him with her hand above her head. He then tosses one out of the way, and a Jedi gets a cortosis blade and shuts his lightsabre off. He then kills four incompetent Jedi with it, then he gets his ass handed to him by the remaining three and his hand cut off.

Originally posted by Guy LeDouche
1. Just because all the Jedi are dead, it doesn't mean that there aren't any force-sensitives left. Think about the Emperors hands. They were powerful, but not as powerful as Vader. There was still lots of potential to find a new Sith apprentice, but Vader was the best.

Just because there are force-sensitives doesn't mean that they have a lot of potential. Vader was the best only because there wasn't really anyone to choose from. Vader had already been trained and so-forth, so he was obviously better than other force-sensitives. But he still sucked.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Have you read ROTV? If you had you'd know that Palpatine only planned to keep Vader until he could find a stronger apprentice.

Yeah, just like every Sith ever. They are all looking for a more powerful apprentice. But, Sidious was not going to and did not find one. He had the whole united galaxy to choose from, but Vader was the best.

Erm, in purge he beats a rage filled Jedi who charges to him with her hand above her head. He then tosses one out of the way, and a Jedi gets a cortosis blade and shuts his lightsabre off. He then kills four incompetent Jedi with it, then he gets his ass handed to him by the remaining three and his hand cut off.

I'm talking about the beginning of the fight, right when he enters, when he kills the first two knights and tosses a master across the room, while engaging three other masters.

After that he kills one more Jedi, gets his blade shut off, snaps the girl's neck (who looked a bit too young to be a master, meh). Kills one more, get's hurt by the midget and the fat one, kills the hot headed one who betrays someone else, then gets caved in by three of them bringing down the cave...

Yeah, weird fight.

Originally posted by Gamblor
[b]Erm, in purge he beats a rage filled Jedi who charges to him with her hand above her head. He then tosses one out of the way, and a Jedi gets a cortosis blade and shuts his lightsabre off. He then kills four incompetent Jedi with it, then he gets his ass handed to him by the remaining three and his hand cut off.

I'm talking about the beginning of the fight, right when he enters, when he kills the first two knights and tosses a master across the room, while engaging three other masters.

After that he kills one more Jedi, gets his blade shut off, snaps the girl's neck (who looked a bit too young to be a master, meh). Kills one more, get's hurt by the midget and the fat one, kills the hot headed one who betrays someone else, then gets caved in by three of them bringing down the cave...

Yeah, weird fight. [/B]

Well, he was effectively pwned by the Jedi. If the stormtroopers hadn't came in, he would have died.

But he was able to take them on with some skill.

Obi-Wan Kenobi, by Dooku.

Yeah, but he couldn't do anything, he was being held in midair.
It would be an infinity, if there were things that specifically contradicted it.

Well, RODV does.
Yeah, just like every Sith ever. They are all looking for a more powerful apprentice. But, Sidious was not going to and did not find one. He had the whole united galaxy to choose from, but Vader was the best.

He had a galaxy to run. he had no time to train an apprentice from an infant, like he did with Maul.

Yeah, but he couldn't do anything, he was being held in midair.

And what's stopping Vader from doing the same? Being 80% of OT Sidious grants you immense force powers.

Well, RODV does.

It takes place right after RODV. By this time he would be a bit more used to the suit.

And remember, this OT Vader has an extra 20 years of Sith training.

He had a galaxy to run. he had no time to train an apprentice from an infant, like he did with Maul.

Maybe not, but he still left most of the governing to the Moffs, the Admirals and Vader. He devoted alot of his time to the Dark Side, considering he wrote three huge Dark Side encyclopedias. And he also supervised and trained these Dark Jedi:

(kudos to Darth_Glentract)

Gwellib Ap-Llewff, Dark Side Adept of the Imperial Citadel
Argor, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
Boc Aseca, Dark Jedi
Picaroon C. Boodle, Dark Jedi
Brakiss, Apprentice Inquisitor
Adalric Cessius Brandl, High Inquisitor
Jaalib Brandl, Apprentice Inquisitor
Shira Ellan Colla Brie, Emperor's Hand
Joruus C'baoth, Guardian of Wayland
The Cloaked Figure, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
The Constable of Homunculi, Clone Keeper
Cronal, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side/Emperor's Hand
Sa Cuis, Emperor's Hand
Ameesa Darys, Inquisitor
Nial Declann, Grand Admiral
Drayneen, Inquisitor
Jeng Droga, Emperor's Hand
Durrei, Dark Jedi
Baddon Fass, Dark Side Elite
Flint, Stormtrooper
Vill Goir, Dark Side Elite
Gorc, Dark Jedi
Gornash, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
Kvag Gthull, Dark Side Elite
Halmere, High Inquisitor
Hethrir, Imperial Procurator of Justice
Roganda Ismaren, Emperor's Hand
Mara Jade, Emperor's Hand
Shela Jalahafi, Dark Side Adept
Teles Jalahafi, Dark Side Adept
Carnor Jax, Imperial Sovereign Protector
Jedgar, High Prophet of the Dark Side
Jerec, Inquisitor/Emperor's Hand
Kadann, Supreme Prophet of the Dark Side
Zasm Katth, Dark Side Elite
Danaan Kerr, Dark Jedi
Vess Kogo, Emperor's Hand
Arden Lyn, Emperor's Hand
Malorum, Inquisitor
Maw, Dark Jedi
Merilli, Lesser Prophetess of the Dark Side
Krdys Mordi, Dark Side Elite
Morthul, Dark Jedi
Nefta, Dark Side Adept of the Byss Clone Vats
Xecr Nist, Dark Side Elite
Quarmall, Dark Jedi
Sarcev Quest, Emperor's Hand
Loam Redge, Inquisitor
Rillao, Dark Jedi
Sa-Di, Dark Side Adept of the Byss Clone Vats
Sancor, Inquisitor
Sariss, Lesser Prophetess of the Dark Side
Sedriss, Dark Side Elite
Shynne, Inquisitor
Mox Slosin, High Inquisitor
Kam Solusar, Dark Side Elite
Maarek Stele, Emperor's Reach/Emperor's Hand
Tedryn-Sha, Dark Side Elite
Savuud Thimram, Dark Side Adept of the Imperial Citadel
T'iaz, Dark Jedi
Laddinare Torbin, Grand Inquisitor
Tremayne, High Inquisitor
Vost Tyne, Admiral
Valytar, Inquisitor
Vialco, Apprentice Inquisitor
Yun, Dark Jedi

And Vader was a big bit above all of them. Granted, they might not have been powerful than the "uberhero" tier characters (Obi-Wan, Anakin, Mace, Yoda, Dooku, Sidious), they were Dark Jedi.

Originally posted by Gamblor
[b]He had a galaxy to run. he had no time to train an apprentice from an infant, like he did with Maul.

Maybe not, but he still left most of the governing to the Moffs, the Admirals and Vader. He devoted alot of his time to the Dark Side, considering he wrote three huge Dark Side encyclopedias. And he also supervised and trained these Dark Jedi:

(kudos to Darth_Glentract)

Gwellib Ap-Llewff, Dark Side Adept of the Imperial Citadel
Argor, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
Boc Aseca, Dark Jedi
Picaroon C. Boodle, Dark Jedi
Brakiss, Apprentice Inquisitor
Adalric Cessius Brandl, High Inquisitor
Jaalib Brandl, Apprentice Inquisitor
Shira Ellan Colla Brie, Emperor's Hand
Joruus C'baoth, Guardian of Wayland
The Cloaked Figure, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
The Constable of Homunculi, Clone Keeper
Cronal, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side/Emperor's Hand
Sa Cuis, Emperor's Hand
Ameesa Darys, Inquisitor
Nial Declann, Grand Admiral
Drayneen, Inquisitor
Jeng Droga, Emperor's Hand
Durrei, Dark Jedi
Baddon Fass, Dark Side Elite
Flint, Stormtrooper
Vill Goir, Dark Side Elite
Gorc, Dark Jedi
Gornash, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
Kvag Gthull, Dark Side Elite
Halmere, High Inquisitor
Hethrir, Imperial Procurator of Justice
Roganda Ismaren, Emperor's Hand
Mara Jade, Emperor's Hand
Shela Jalahafi, Dark Side Adept
Teles Jalahafi, Dark Side Adept
Carnor Jax, Imperial Sovereign Protector
Jedgar, High Prophet of the Dark Side
Jerec, Inquisitor/Emperor's Hand
Kadann, Supreme Prophet of the Dark Side
Zasm Katth, Dark Side Elite
Danaan Kerr, Dark Jedi
Vess Kogo, Emperor's Hand
Arden Lyn, Emperor's Hand
Malorum, Inquisitor
Maw, Dark Jedi
Merilli, Lesser Prophetess of the Dark Side
Krdys Mordi, Dark Side Elite
Morthul, Dark Jedi
Nefta, Dark Side Adept of the Byss Clone Vats
Xecr Nist, Dark Side Elite
Quarmall, Dark Jedi
Sarcev Quest, Emperor's Hand
Loam Redge, Inquisitor
Rillao, Dark Jedi
Sa-Di, Dark Side Adept of the Byss Clone Vats
Sancor, Inquisitor
Sariss, Lesser Prophetess of the Dark Side
Sedriss, Dark Side Elite
Shynne, Inquisitor
Mox Slosin, High Inquisitor
Kam Solusar, Dark Side Elite
Maarek Stele, Emperor's Reach/Emperor's Hand
Tedryn-Sha, Dark Side Elite
Savuud Thimram, Dark Side Adept of the Imperial Citadel
T'iaz, Dark Jedi
Laddinare Torbin, Grand Inquisitor
Tremayne, High Inquisitor
Vost Tyne, Admiral
Valytar, Inquisitor
Vialco, Apprentice Inquisitor
Yun, Dark Jedi

And Vader was a big bit above all of them. Granted, they might not have been powerful than the "uberhero" tier characters (Obi-Wan, Anakin, Mace, Yoda, Dooku, Sidious), they were Dark Jedi. [/B]

Sidious had plenty of time, but no one better than Vader, thanks for the list, Gamblor (and Glentract, as I take it).

And what's stopping Vader from doing the same? Being 80% of OT Sidious grants you immense force powers.

Well, if he could have he would have when they fought in EU.

It takes place right after RODV. By this time he would be a bit more used to the suit.

It takes place before RODV.

And remember, this OT Vader has an extra 20 years of Sith training.

And (in ANH, anyways) had just got his suit fixed after getting injured by Maul.
Maybe not, but he still left most of the governing to the Moffs, the Admirals and Vader. He devoted alot of his time to the Dark Side, considering he wrote three huge Dark Side encyclopedias. And he also supervised and trained these Dark Jedi:

Okay, then none were stronger than Vader, but the point is Palpatine still never planned to keep him.

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Well, if he could have he would have when they fought in EU.

Uh, when?

It takes place before RODV.

According to TFN, a generally reliable site, it takes place after RODV

http://www.theforce.net/comics/darkhorse/cp_purge.asp

And (in ANH, anyways) had just got his suit fixed after getting injured by Maul.

I didn't know Tales were part of the EU Continuity. I thought they were infinities.

Okay, then none were stronger than Vader, but the point is Palpatine still never planned to keep him.

Why not though? Vader worked out perfectly for him: He would never be more powerful than Sidious, but he'll be powerful enough to mop up the remaining Jedi and inspire fear throughout the Galaxy.

Originally posted by Gamblor
[b]Yeah, but he couldn't do anything, he was being held in midair.

And what's stopping Vader from doing the same? Being 80% of OT Sidious grants you immense force powers.

Well, RODV does.

It takes place right after RODV. By this time he would be a bit more used to the suit.

And remember, this OT Vader has an extra 20 years of Sith training.

He had a galaxy to run. he had no time to train an apprentice from an infant, like he did with Maul.

Maybe not, but he still left most of the governing to the Moffs, the Admirals and Vader. He devoted alot of his time to the Dark Side, considering he wrote three huge Dark Side encyclopedias. And he also supervised and trained these Dark Jedi:

(kudos to Darth_Glentract)

Gwellib Ap-Llewff, Dark Side Adept of the Imperial Citadel
Argor, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
Boc Aseca, Dark Jedi
Picaroon C. Boodle, Dark Jedi
Brakiss, Apprentice Inquisitor
Adalric Cessius Brandl, High Inquisitor
Jaalib Brandl, Apprentice Inquisitor
Shira Ellan Colla Brie, Emperor's Hand
Joruus C'baoth, Guardian of Wayland
The Cloaked Figure, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
The Constable of Homunculi, Clone Keeper
Cronal, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side/Emperor's Hand
Sa Cuis, Emperor's Hand
Ameesa Darys, Inquisitor
Nial Declann, Grand Admiral
Drayneen, Inquisitor
Jeng Droga, Emperor's Hand
Durrei, Dark Jedi
Baddon Fass, Dark Side Elite
Flint, Stormtrooper
Vill Goir, Dark Side Elite
Gorc, Dark Jedi
Gornash, Lesser Prophet of the Dark Side
Kvag Gthull, Dark Side Elite
Halmere, High Inquisitor
Hethrir, Imperial Procurator of Justice
Roganda Ismaren, Emperor's Hand
Mara Jade, Emperor's Hand
Shela Jalahafi, Dark Side Adept
Teles Jalahafi, Dark Side Adept
Carnor Jax, Imperial Sovereign Protector
Jedgar, High Prophet of the Dark Side
Jerec, Inquisitor/Emperor's Hand
Kadann, Supreme Prophet of the Dark Side
Zasm Katth, Dark Side Elite
Danaan Kerr, Dark Jedi
Vess Kogo, Emperor's Hand
Arden Lyn, Emperor's Hand
Malorum, Inquisitor
Maw, Dark Jedi
Merilli, Lesser Prophetess of the Dark Side
Krdys Mordi, Dark Side Elite
Morthul, Dark Jedi
Nefta, Dark Side Adept of the Byss Clone Vats
Xecr Nist, Dark Side Elite
Quarmall, Dark Jedi
Sarcev Quest, Emperor's Hand
Loam Redge, Inquisitor
Rillao, Dark Jedi
Sa-Di, Dark Side Adept of the Byss Clone Vats
Sancor, Inquisitor
Sariss, Lesser Prophetess of the Dark Side
Sedriss, Dark Side Elite
Shynne, Inquisitor
Mox Slosin, High Inquisitor
Kam Solusar, Dark Side Elite
Maarek Stele, Emperor's Reach/Emperor's Hand
Tedryn-Sha, Dark Side Elite
Savuud Thimram, Dark Side Adept of the Imperial Citadel
T'iaz, Dark Jedi
Laddinare Torbin, Grand Inquisitor
Tremayne, High Inquisitor
Vost Tyne, Admiral
Valytar, Inquisitor
Vialco, Apprentice Inquisitor
Yun, Dark Jedi

And Vader was a big bit above all of them. Granted, they might not have been powerful than the "uberhero" tier characters (Obi-Wan, Anakin, Mace, Yoda, Dooku, Sidious), they were Dark Jedi. [/B]


I think that Joruus was more powerful than Vader.

Uh, when?

Uh, that cmoci they fight in. They fight on Tatioone just before (maybe even during) ANH. Vader thinks that the Stolen Death Star Plans are there, goes there, and is attacked by Maul. He is losing but then wins by stabbing his lightsaber through his own cyborg body, which nearly kills himself.
According to TFN, a generally reliable site, it takes place after RODV

Except Commander Appo is in that comic. Unfortunately, he dies in ROTV, meaning the Comic Book had to have taken place first, when Appo was still alive.
I didn't know Tales were part of the EU Continuity. I thought they were infinities.

idk.
Why not though? Vader worked out perfectly for him: He would never be more powerful than Sidious, but he'll be powerful enough to mop up the remaining Jedi and inspire fear throughout the Galaxy.

Because "Palpatine wanted a strionger apprentice, which he found in Luke" (GL's words).

I think that Joruus was more powerful than Vader.

He was powerful but not on Vader's level. He only really excelled at Battle Meditation

Except Commander Appo is in that comic. Unfortunately, he dies in ROTV, meaning the Comic Book had to have taken place first, when Appo was still alive.

Ah, I see. Well, there is the unlikely possibility that Purge takes place in RODV, after Alderaan and before Kashyyk...

Uh, that cmoci they fight in. They fight on Tatioone just before (maybe even during) ANH. Vader thinks that the Stolen Death Star Plans are there, goes there, and is attacked by Maul. He is losing but then wins by stabbing his lightsaber through his own cyborg body, which nearly kills himself.

Yeah, I think those comics are infinities. Vader would never ever return to Tatooine anyways.