Mario & Luigi vs. Darth Vader

Originally posted by kamikz
Where in this game do you get that rod, cause if you get it, can you ignore all threats from the rest of the game?

You get the star rod in the ending bowser has it through the whole game
And because of that mario couldn't beat him as matter of fact nothing could stop him.

Originally posted by kamikz
And where is the proof that the rod can resist everything Star Wars/ Darth Vader can put against it, and how do you know these, "seven stars" doesen't wish it away?

Because he's invincible when uses it period.

Originally posted by kamikz
how do you know these, "seven stars" doesen't wish it away?

Because it comes back after a few turns also it took the seven stars and princess peach to wish just to eliminate the aura for a while.

Originally posted by MadMel
he is not, the bloke has trouble beating a giant turtle thing...vader could easily crush them with pure force power. your just upping mario too much, he is nowhere nearer a god than a flower is.

Mario. is approximately 34798.56 times more powerful than Marka Ragnos. This PROVES that he is a force god.

And what has the rod shown to block, well most things from the Super Mario world is walking animals who are unarmed.....
And what exact power did these seven stars have over the rod? Did they create it thus they are able to disable it (although they needed Peach to apparently) or did they just peforme magic?

And since the force is an aura surrounding everything, Vader should be able too move things beyond the rod's aura. It may prevent physical attacks but when someone is actually manipulating the air "around" the rod and pulling it away from Mario, shoulden't that be an option. It could be like an undestroyable shield, like the ships have around them in Star Wars (although they are not undestroyable). They prevent incoming damage, but Vader is more than capable of destroying everything inside it....

Originally posted by Blaxican_Hydra
Mario. is approximately 34798.56 times more powerful than Marka Ragnos. This PROVES that he is a force god.

I changed my mind, Mario pwns even without the rod........ 😆

Originally posted by kamikz
And what has the rod shown to block, well most things from the Super Mario world is walking animals who are unarmed.....
And what exact power did these seven stars have over the rod? Did they create it thus they are able to disable it (although they needed Peach to apparently) or did they just peforme magic?

And since the force is an aura surrounding everything, Vader should be able too move things beyond the rod's aura. It may prevent physical attacks but when someone is actually manipulating the air "around" the rod and pulling it away from Mario, shoulden't that be an option. It could be like an undestroyable shield, like the ships have around them in Star Wars (although they are not undestroyable). They prevent incoming damage, but Vader is more than capable of destroying everything inside it....

haha yes, I never thought I'd actually debate on this thread. But since the rod came into discussion I am still trying to see if Vader can beat him. But really, this thread should have died long ago....

Originally posted by kamikz
haha yes, I never thought I'd actually debate on this thread. But since the rod came into discussion I am still trying to see if Vader can beat him. But really, this thread should have died long ago....

The rod makes the weilder "invincible" so if mario has it he wins PERIOD.

You are not answering to my questions, which means you can't give me a decent answere except "invinsibility pwns". At least try to get my point.....

Originally posted by kamikz
And what has the rod shown to block, well most things from the Super Mario world is walking animals who are unarmed.....

The Rod is from paper mario it has the power to grant whatever the wielder desires it's blocked magic spells,physical attacks, attacks from spirits etc... you name it

Originally posted by kamikz

And what exact power did these seven stars have over the rod? Did they create it thus they are able to disable it (although they needed Peach to apparently) or did they just peforme magic?

They created the rod with there magic, it appears stars can grant some wishes peaches wish along with there power allows the rod's aura to disappear for a while.

Originally posted by kamikz

And since the force is an aura surrounding everything, Vader should be able too move things beyond the rod's aura. It may prevent physical attacks but when someone is actually manipulating the air "around" the rod and pulling it away from Mario, shoulden't that be an option.

The aura surrounds the rod also so the "FORCE" can't pull it from his hand.

Originally posted by kamikz

It could be like an undestroyable shield, like the ships have around them in Star Wars (although they are not undestroyable). They prevent incoming damage, but Vader is more than capable of destroying everything inside it....

Nothing can penetrate the aura not even vaders will.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The Rod is from paper mario it has the power to grant whatever the wielder desires it's blocked magic spells,physical attacks, attacks from spirits etc... you name it

They created the rod with there magic, it appears stars can grant some wishes peaches wish along with there power allows the rod's aura to disappear for a while.

The aura surrounds the rod also so the "FORCE" can't pull it from his hand.

Nothing can penetrate the aura not even vaders will.

Thanks, that made it clearer, but I still want proof that not the force, who should be around everything can not effect it? I think the rods aura could be similar to the ships, Mario can still move with it in his hand can he not? And if he has cloths they don't fly out of the thing, they stay where they are. So if the force already exists inside the aura it should be able to affect Mario or the rod from inside.

But this is next to impossible to decide since they are from completly different games/universes. We both disagree and it is nearly impossible to tell, shall we just call this an undecided battle. (The fact that Mario has the Rod).

Originally posted by kamikz
Thanks, that made it clearer, but I still want proof that not the force, who should be around everything can not effect it? I think the rods aura could be similar to the ships, Mario can still move with it in his hand can he not? And if he has cloths they don't fly out of the thing, they stay where they are. So if the force already exists inside the aura it should be able to affect Mario or the rod from inside.

Mario didn't use the star rod it was bowswer and yes he could move with the aura.

Originally posted by kamikz

But this is next to impossible to decide since they are from completly different games/universes. We both disagree and it is nearly impossible to tell, shall we just call this an undecided battle. (The fact that Mario has the Rod).

Well I don't see what's stopping mario from wishing vader can't use the force and the aura is "INVINCIBLE" It can not be influenced by outside forces what so ever only the creators can unwish it.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Mario didn't use the star rod it was bowswer and yes he could move with the aura.

Well I don't see what's stopping mario from wishing vader can't use the force and the aura is "INVINCIBLE" It can not be influenced by outside forces what so ever only the creators can unwish it.

If he could move was certenly not my point, I knew that all along. Read again.

So if Mario never used it, how do we know it effects him after the seven stars took away the aura of it. And why didn't Bowser wish Mario dead, he had all the time in the world apparently. And I doubt he can wish something when he is getting his throat crushed...

And again, you can't be clear if the rod defendes from the "force" as I said, only normal magical attacks that strikes from the outside and physical attacks has been shown to be prevented.

Originally posted by kamikz
So if Mario never used it, how do we know it effects him after the seven stars took away the aura of it.

The seven stars take the aura away during battle so mario can hit bowser after like 1 turn it returns and they have to cast the spell again.

Originally posted by kamikz
And why didn't Bowser wish Mario dead, he had all the time in the world apparently. And I doubt he can wish something when he is getting his throat crushed...

Bowser is an idiot and you don't have to verbally wish.

Originally posted by kamikz

And again, you can't be clear if the rod defendes from the "force" as I said, only normal magical attacks that strikes from the outside and physical attacks has been shown to be prevented.

It defends against anything what else do I have to show?

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The seven stars take the aura away during battle so mario can hit bowser after like 1 turn it returns and they have to cast the spell again.

Bowser is an idiot and you don't have to verbally wish.

It defends against anything what else do I have to show?

The ground when the aura is put on does not vaporise, does it? No, I don't think so. The cloaths Bowser's wearing (braclets, etc) does not vaporise when the aura is put on does it, no. That means that the force,, who exist in everything and beyond that, in every person, must still exist even when the aura is put on, which means Vader can effect him through the aura. It is not an incoming attack, there is really no defence for it except another force user who can use the midichlorians around them to dispell the magic sort of like that.

So what makes you think Mario would use the wish right here, he is not selfish is he? And he might as well die first.

Gotta go to sleep now, cya.

Originally posted by Blaxican_Hydra
Mario. is approximately 34798.56 times more powerful than Marka Ragnos. This PROVES that he is a force god.

i love you man. look the truth is that mario MAY die. Which probably wont happen. WHile luigi jumps on his head, and quickly ends the fight by turning him into a coin. And if they have the star rod, or a star vader is totally ****ed. If they have a yoshi, vader is totally ****ed.

Also note that mario or luigi have never been killed/badly injured.
Vader got his ass kicked by obi wan, and died in an explosion of the death star. Mario and luigi have survived explosions before.

also also note: why the **** is anyone standing up for darth vader. that just shows how serious people are in this world 😆

Originally posted by kamikz
The ground when the aura is put on does not vaporise, does it? No, I don't think so. B]

Why would it the aura protects it doesn't destroy?

Originally posted by kamikz
[B] That means that the force,, who exist in everything and beyond that, in every person, must still exist even when the aura is put on, which means Vader can effect him through the aura.

Your logic is flawed the force is in everything but manipulation of it depends on the will of the user vaders "WILL" cannot effect the aura because it cannot be maipulated.

Originally posted by kamikz

So what makes you think Mario would use the wish right here, he is not selfish is he? And he might as well die first.

If he wanted to mario could erase vader with the rod, unless vadar can effect the force to the point where he can grant wishes he can't un wish the aura because that's the only way to stop it.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Why would it the aura protects it doesn't destroy?

Your logic is flawed the force is in everything but manipulation of it depends on the will of the user vaders "WILL" cannot effect the aura because it cannot be maipulated.

If he wanted to mario could erase vader with the rod, unless vadar can effect the force to the point where he can grant wishes he can't un wish the aura because that's the only way to stop it.

You seem to miss the point. I was never arguing that the aura "should" destroy the ground, I was pointing out that things can survive in it if it is there before. So the force still exists inside the aura. Vader could manipulate the force/midichlorians as good in there as he could through the aura/shields of a ship that stoops incoming damage...

Originally posted by kamikz
You seem to miss the point. I was never arguing that the aura "should" destroy the ground, I was pointing out that things can survive in it if it is there before. So the force still exists inside the aura. Vader could manipulate the force/midichlorians as good in there as he could through the aura/shields of a ship that stoops incoming damage...

The aura doesn't destroy period so the ground would survive it protects you don't seem to get thatt vader cannot manipulate within the aura his will can't penetrate it.

The thing is that he woulden't need to penetrate it since he can use the force inside it. Grip isen't like a fire bolt which moves straight against a target, it just strikes, like from within. How else could he grip a person who was miles and miles away, in a star ship that is also surrounded by a shield. Did he need to penetrate that shield?
And he doesen't need to attack the shield, I said he would slap the rod from his hands...

I keep telling you the aura makes the weilder invincible though so why would the force work on him?