Originally posted by NoFate007
If it was written well, Thing. I'm not a big fan of the "Slade can beat anyone" type of deal. I think its ridiculous that he got one up on Flash and such.
Cosign. That was one of the worst plot devices I've ever seen. Soon we're gonna see people saying that Slade could beat Thor, then Galactus. Jeez. Ben can take Slade, considering that the first thing that's gonna happen is Ben's gonna pop his head like a zit.
Originally posted by Mider
Slades normal arsenal will level thing and with his speed thing wont be able to hit him, his staff alone can give ben a horrible beating, and those grenades ben would be KO'd for sure, and Slade has evaded superman for a short time at least. Is ben faster then supes i think not. His arsenal is to much, if he was fighting just with his hands then yeah he would eventually get beaten i guess but if he can evade long enough and hit him enough times he can win and yes its a possibility.
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Ben can take a haymaker in mush from The HULK, THOR, Namor, Gladiator, The Champion...Etc... (not to say it doesn't hurt him but it doesn't KO him...) And he can't take Slades normal shit.
Nigga pleezzz...
Ben 11/10
ok i guess ben is more durable then superboy and super girl now........yeah......thats why he got taken out by juggernaut in 3 hits oh wow what durability im sure Slade is trembling. Im also sure Ben is faster then slade i guess he's so fast he could have relfexes to know were the flash is gonna land, you can say its PIS all you want it's happend more then once and thus cannot be PIS, no one says he can beat everyone anyone with good weapons can beat the right guy with the proper prep, promethus is just a guy, yet he took down everyone but lost to a chick in a cat suit point is he was winning cause of his brains and tech, Slade has brains, tech and his own powers although thye dont match up to bens his speed compensates for it deal with it people even though he is just a peak human he is amazingly powerful and do beat some bit hitters and has in the past weather you want to accept it or not.
Actually, if it's happened more than once, it's just repeated PIS bud. By no means should any type of grenade be able to hurt Superman, unless said grenade is magical or made of kryptonite. So, what now? Also, how the hell is Slade going to be able to hear when Ben does a sonic clap? Ben claps his hands, then pops Slade like a zit.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
Actually, if it's happened more than once, it's just repeated PIS bud. By no means should any type of grenade be able to hurt Superman, unless said grenade is magical or made of kryptonite. So, what now? Also, how the hell is Slade going to be able to hear when Ben does a sonic clap? Ben claps his hands, then pops Slade like a zit.
Cosigned.
last time i remeber he also got his arm broke by DD is that also PIS? So what now every time that superman can be hurt by a being thats not magical its PIS? He has been attacked by Kryptonite weapons and still not died you can call it whatever you want it happend, and i already said i dont care what ben he isnt anything compared to Superman or wonder women whom slade has taken on and he isnt faster then flash whom slade has hurt using his super fast brain. Oh yeah it must also be PIS that MM hurt Supes or WW.
I'm not talking about Physical attacks. I'm talking about grenades. Explosives. More than 1 person has said that the Identity Crisis fight was a load of crap, and a huge plot device. Is Daredevil breaking Ben's arm PIS? You're darn right it is. I've read both before, and the whole thing has crap written all over it. The Green Lantern can't take out Slade, yet an arrow in an eye socket sets him off. Give me a break. If he could control 95% of his brain, he wouldn't have a temper to worry about, so that's what we call bad writing. Try again once you've done your research.
so what? a arrow hurt parallax while nothing else could you think thats not stupid? DD is immune to the green lantern power but you say he cant defeat galactus or at least shrug of his power even though ovelord did and he isnt even as good a character as DD. you can say its PIS all you want the point is those ARE his powers he DOES have the power to go that fast and to spot the flash if his brain is fast enough, he DOES have the speed to catch guys who are lower speedsters, HE DOES have the weapons to hurt or at least knock out superman or wonder women for a little while, maybe it happend by suprise i mean i guess Slade aint a prometheus but he still has the skills to take on alot of people you might not think he could. His skills alone are enough for him to take on slade he is strong enough to cut through cyborg, he is fast enough to chase down lower speedsters on foot, and even the mind set to see higher speedsters or if that wont work he has precog so he can know were they will be. He can beat ben and has a pretty good chance of doing so.
I have a little problem with fights like this; fights in which a 100 ton (or so) level character is put up against a slightly enhanced human. The simple fact is that the stronger fighter could put his/her fist through the enhanced human's body with very little effort. Even a grazing hit should shatter bones and cause massive internal bleeding. However, those results are rarely ever shown in the comics (if they were fights like Hulk vs Wolverine couldn't take place).
As to this fight, Slade epitomizes PIS almost more than any other character. This doesn't make him a bad character (I personally like him), just not a realistic one. He could win this fight depending on how many pis weapons you want to give him, but I'd go with Ben.
Originally posted by Marcus4600
I'm not talking about Physical attacks. I'm talking about grenades. Explosives. More than 1 person has said that the Identity Crisis fight was a load of crap, and a huge plot device. Is Daredevil breaking Ben's arm PIS? You're darn right it is. I've read both before, and the whole thing has crap written all over it. The Green Lantern can't take out Slade, yet an arrow in an eye socket sets him off. Give me a break. If he could control 95% of his brain, he wouldn't have a temper to worry about, so that's what we call bad writing. Try again once you've done your research.
When did Daredevil break The THING's arm...?
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Originally posted by TheKahn
I have a little problem with fights like this; fights in which a 100 ton (or so) level character is put up against a slightly enhanced human. The simple fact is that the stronger fighter could put his/her fist through the enhanced human's body with [b]very little effort. Even a grazing hit should shatter bones and cause massive internal bleeding. However, those results are rarely ever shown in the comics (if they were fights like Hulk vs Wolverine couldn't take place).As to this fight, Slade epitomizes PIS almost more than any other character. This doesn't make him a bad character (I personally like him), just not a realistic one. He could win this fight depending on how many pis weapons you want to give him, but I'd go with Ben. [/B]
Yeah. Slade has a major jobber aura going around him. He's kinda like the evil peak human version of Superdick. I dug up one of my Anatomy and Physiology textbooks and looked up the brain. Basically, Slade would have total control over his emotions if he could control 95% of his brain, and regulate what chemicals go where in his body, but that's about it. He could kill himself with a thought, but that's about it. The guys who created him didn't do much research on the human body, I guess. I dunno. I guess he and Wolverine are at the top of the list when it comes to the Jobber Aura.
Anyway, Ben still wins this one.
yeah right stop calling it PIS those feats happend deal with them Ben loses and dies slade would dodge all his attacks then slice him in half using his super strengh plus swords, or just turns his staff on full power and leaves it on thing till he is killed, or throws one of his superboy KOing grenades at him and KO's him, you guys are living in fantasy land speed makes a big deal in any fight so this whole he just needs one hit doesnt really matter i dont think he will be able to get that hit since other's faster then him cant or have had a hard time. Slade could speedblitz him and then shove a grenade down his throat or the staff and then kill, or most so fast that he wouldnt be able to defend himself then he'd cut his head off.
Slade had trouble landing a hit on Nightwing in Nightwing #117, yet on other occasions he can avoid Superman or hit Flash and Green Lantern. He shouldn't be able to take a hit from Thing but I'm sure he'd be written that way, and he'd probably be able to KO Thing with just his fists depending on who was writing. Bah! If I was writing the damn comic it would be Thing 10/10.
He has alot of weapons that can kill him, he is strong enough to cut through cyborg of the teen titans with just his sword thats one weapon, he has his staff which at low power can blow a helicopter out of the sky, he has those superboy and supergirl KOing grenades. Those are three weapons right there.