Originally posted by Tulika
Batman's superhuman explanation is, that he's Batman. That's the explanation and in the comic world, it's completely plausible. This is definelty one of the worst matters to debate as it's either true or not. Showing a scan makes it true, none existing means it's not. Don't waste your breath on criticising comic logic.And I've never seen Creed throw anything but fits.
No, the worst debate is who wins Creed or Wane.
Originally posted by Tulika
Batman endures pain well enough. I'm 100% positive it takes one helluva shot (a lethal one, maybe) to disable him. He wouldn't be crying his eyes out after losing his family jewels unlike his opponent. That's why it takes more than one haphazard slash from Victor to decapacitate him. And Batman has done it before and will do it again; dodge the undodgeable and fight the unfightable. Just saying that Creed is better than him isn't enough against Bats.
So...bat's can endure having his head ripped off of his shoudlers then.....
Originally posted by Tulika
Batman's superhuman explanation is, that he's Batman. That's the explanation and in the comic world, it's completely plausible.
Thats not an explanation. Thats an assumption and a far fetched one at that.
Its like saying, Batman can beat Galactus without prep, why? Because he is Batman 😉
Originally posted by Tulika
This is definelty one of the worst matters to debate as it's either true or not. Showing a scan makes it true, none existing means it's not. Don't waste your breath on criticising comic logic.
Please practise what you preach. You are telling people to provide concrete evidence in the forms of scans just after explaining that Batman wins because he is Batman............its a tad hypocritical don't you think? 🙄
will, your argumentation is very typical for Americans, I'm sure you're proud. You're picking up non-existant messages out of context. In Marvel Universe, things happen unnaturally. They do not need explanations that are physically possible or make sense.
But if you're going to argue something in this world, you need evidence. I highly doubt that you're too stupid to see the difference.
And again, there is still no evidence, that Batman wouldn't be able to knock out Sabretooth with the bar counter. We all know Wolverine has been knocked out a myriad of times, and the same goes for Sabretooth. Neither is imprevious to damage, even if they can negate its effects rapidly. But that's not the point, as the match, unless mentioned otherwise, is fought until one participant is disabled and/or unconscious. So unless proof is given, that Victor Creed would stand conscious after being maimed with for example the said bar counter, Batman is the winner in my eyes.
Originally posted by Tulika
will, your argumentation is very typical for Americans, I'm sure you're proud. You're picking up non-existant messages out of context. In Marvel Universe, things happen unnaturally. They do not need explanations that are physically possible or make sense.But if you're going to argue something in this world, you need evidence. I highly doubt that you're too stupid to see the difference.
And again, there is still no evidence, that Batman wouldn't be able to knock out Sabretooth with the bar counter. We all know Wolverine has been knocked out a myriad of times, and the same goes for Sabretooth. Neither is imprevious to damage, even if they can negate its effects rapidly. But that's not the point, as the match, unless mentioned otherwise, is fought until one participant is disabled and/or unconscious. So unless proof is given, that Victor Creed would stand conscious after being maimed with for example the said bar counter, Batman is the winner in my eyes.
There is no evidence that Spider-man can't kill Galactus with one punch, so what?
And i'm not American in case you have problems with that.
Galactus has been proven to last against attacks of much greater force than what Batman can inflict, and that's the kind of evidence that applies. But I am fairly sure both Wolverine, mind you Tshern, and Sabretooth have been shown to black out at damages within Batman's ability range. I am still hoping to see a scan where Sabretooth suffers damage equal to Batman's maximal output and retains consciousness. If someone can show me that if the guy was hit with a bar counter, which I've been repeating way too much, I'll say "OK" and back off.
Originally posted by Tulika
Galactus has been proven to last against attacks of much greater force than what Batman can inflict, and that's the kind of evidence that applies. But I am fairly sure both Wolverine, mind you Tshern, and Sabretooth have been shown to black out at damages within Batman's ability range. I am still hoping to see a scan where Sabretooth suffers damage equal to Batman's maximal output and retains consciousness. If someone can show me that if the guy was hit with a bar counter, which I've been repeating way too much, I'll say "OK" and back off.
Man! Wolverine been hit by Colossus, Hulk, Juggernaut and kept fighting! I believe each of this character hit at least 100 times harder than Batman. Sabertooth has same durability as Wolverine and even better healing factor. What other evidence do you want?!
Originally posted by Tulika
will, your argumentation is very typical for Americans,
Im not American. That was a below the belt insult 🙂 😆
Originally posted by Tulika
I'm sure you're proud. You're picking up non-existant messages out of context. In Marvel Universe, things happen unnaturally. They do not need explanations that are physically possible or make sense.But if you're going to argue something in this world, you need evidence. I highly doubt that you're too stupid to see the difference.
Oh I agree with this, I just do not constitute this as evidence.....
Originally posted by Tulika
Batman's superhuman explanation is, that he's Batman. That's the explanation and in the comic world, it's completely plausible.
I don't agree that that is a valid reason for why Batman could win this fight.
Originally posted by Tulika
And again, there is still no evidence, that Batman wouldn't be able to knock out Sabretooth with the bar counter. We all know Wolverine has been knocked out a myriad of times, and the same goes for Sabretooth. Neither is imprevious to damage, even if they can negate its effects rapidly. But that's not the point, as the match, unless mentioned otherwise, is fought until one participant is disabled and/or unconscious. So unless proof is given, that Victor Creed would stand conscious after being maimed with for example the said bar counter, Batman is the winner in my eyes.
Whilst I respect your opinion on this matter, I feel that an opponent who is not only Batman's physical superior in every way, but also has enhanced healing and is facing a batman without valuable prep time, shows that Sabretooth will win this.
You have presented an interesting angle on how Creed can be knocked out but you are under the assumption that
A) This works on an opponent with advanced healing. there is no proof that batman can do this to Creed
B) that batman will be able to apply the move on creed.
Don't get me wrong I respect your opinion and everything. I just felt it was slightly unfair how you stated your opinions. 🙂
Originally posted by Tulika
If someone can show me that if the guy was hit with a bar counter, which I've been repeating way too much, I'll say "OK" and back off.
How's this? I would imagine Ms. Marvel would his just a little harder with an iron girder than Bruce could with a bar counter top but I guess I could be wrong...
Nope, just playing dead and still strong enough to shrug off her punches
And how about repeated blows to the head. He doesn't seem to have trouble saying conscious to me. Also this is old school Sabertooth, without the Adamantium skeleton or the Weapon X enhancements
