Christianity and Islam are the same!

Originally posted by Shin_Gouken
1. Yes but God doesn't teach Christians that they should go around killing all the nonbelievers. In fact, he teaches to endure persecution from others and to "turn the other cheek."

2. Evolution: THEORY

Age of the Earth: I'll come back to you on that after I gather my sources
(PM me if I don't come back to this thread for like a week). There is also something about the gap theory having to do with the Genesis 1:1-2. Just google gap theory if you want to know more. I don't know if I agree with all of it though.

The Big Bang: THEORY

Plate Tectonics: What does the bible say against plate tectonics?

Humans being part of the animal kingdom: Classification systems change over the course of time. They didn't use our exact scientific definition for animal back then.

The bible: MYTH

god: MYTH

The age of the Earth is around 4 billion years old. Plate Tectonics requires millions of years to operate. Some Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. That is too short of a time for what we see in Plate Tectonics.

When dealing with scientific truth, I would rather rely on a Theory then a Myth.

Originally posted by Gregory
You do not know what "theory" means in a scientific context, and I don't think any of us want to see another Creationist flailingly demonstrate his ignorance. Thanks all the same, though.

First off, both of the following have NOT been proved:
Theory of Evolution
Big Bang Theory

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The bible: MYTH

god: MYTH

The age of the Earth is around 4 billion years old. Plate Tectonics requires millions of years to operate. Some Christians believe that the Earth is only 6,000 years old. That is too short of a time for what we see in Plate Tectonics.

When dealing with scientific truth, I would rather rely on a Theory then a Myth.

The Bible is quite historical. It contains accounts that were backed up by other historical books of the time. If you don't believe the events in the bible were true, you might as well not think that Plato ever existed. The historical evidence of the existance of many historic characters is much less than that of the bible.

Also, what do you mean by plate tectonics requiring millions of years to operate? They are constantly operating. Forgive me for any misunderstanding but I just don't see your point.

And BTW I promise I will have some info on the age of the earth ASAP. However, I'm not an expert in the matter. There's someone I know who basically is, and it may take a while for me to contact him.

First off, both of the following have NOT been proved:
Theory of Evolution
Big Bang Theory

No theory has been "proved." No scientific statement, ever, has been "proved." But they're so well-supported that it would be moronic to try to wave them off.

I'd be frustrated with you, but I did say you didn't understand scientific theories in my first post, and the speed with which you provided evidence for this was down-right courteous.

Originally posted by Shin_Gouken
First off, both of the following have NOT been proved:
Theory of Evolution
Big Bang Theory

The Bible is quite historical. It contains accounts that were backed up by other historical books of the time. If you don't believe the events in the bible were true, you might as well not think that Plato ever existed. The historical evidence of the existance of many historic characters is much less than that of the bible.

Also, what do you mean by plate tectonics requiring millions of years to operate? They are constantly operating. Forgive me for any misunderstanding but I just don't see your point.

And BTW I promise I will have some info on the age of the earth ASAP. However, I'm not an expert in the matter. There's someone I know who basically is, and it may take a while for me to contact him.

The bible is a mix of fiction and fact, but the facts are distorted in myth. So, the statement that "The Bible is quite historical" is misleading. The bible must be taken in context of the people how wrote it. To compare the bible to a history book is to miss the point of the bible.

For South America to Separate from Africa, it took millions of years.

Originally posted by Gregory
No theory has been "proved." No scientific statement, ever, has been "proved." But they're so well-supported that it would be moronic to try to wave them off.

I'd be frustrated with you, but I did say you didn't understand scientific theories in my first post, and the speed with which you provided evidence for this was down-right courteous.

...What I was saying was that those two theories not are not scientific law. Therefore, the Bible does not go against scientific claims. It does however have some interesting scientific facts in it that weren't present at the time. For example, it refers to the earth being round, and some other things.
I'll have scriptural reference when I get that guy to send me his research. Just be patient.
And another thing, please refrain from your insults, as they are frustrating.

Originally posted by xyz revolution
Jesus had followers, Muhammed had followers.

Hitler had followers as well.

Originally posted by Shin_Gouken
1. Yes but God doesn't teach Christians that they should go around killing all the nonbelievers. In fact, he teaches to endure persecution from others and to "turn the other cheek."

Let us see what the Bible has to say about non-believers:

Deuteronomy 13:6-9

If your brother, your mother's son, or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly saying, "Let us go and serve other gods (whom neither you nor your fathers have known, of the gods of the peoples who are around you, near you or far from you, from one end of the earth to the other end)," you shall not yield to him or listen to him, and your eye shall not pity him, nor shall you spare or conceal him.

But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

Originally posted by Shin_Gouken

Evolution: THEORY

The Big Bang: THEORY

Relativity: THEORY

I do not suppose that you are going to question whether or not gravity exists.

Originally posted by Punker69
Like I said, I could care less what Islam says. Jesus was the Messiah and he claimed to be the savior. He said "He who hath seen me hath seen the father" and if we're going to play the "messenger" game that dissprove that scripture. Why do you think the apostles in the Acts baptized in the name of Jesus and cast out devils and healed the sick in his name? Because he's the Messiah and they understood this.

A book written by humans? Who is your book written by? Aliens?

he is not a muslim ,so it's not his book anyway

The earth is 4 500.000.000 years old according to science.
The bible says it only exists 6000 years.

There are archeological finds older than 6000 years, that's a proof, and how about the Mesozoicum, paleozoicum and that shit.

Originally posted by Da preacher
The earth is 4 500.000.000 years old according to science.
The bible says it only exists 6000 years.

There are archeological finds older than 6000 years, that's a proof, and how about the Mesozoicum, paleozoicum and that shit.

Where does it say this?

Originally posted by Punker69
You forgot one.

Jesus died and rose again, Muhammed died.

Oh wait, thats not right....

Originally posted by xyz revolution
Except Islam is 500 years out of date because Muhammed was born 500 years after Jesus. Think about it. Look at Islam today and Christianity 500 years ago.

Jesus is the son of god, Muhammed is the son of god.
Jesus had followers, Muhammed had followers.
Christians killed all the non-believers, Muslims killed the non-believers.
Christians moved west to escape the strict rules, Muslims moved west to escape the strict rules.
Christians have Catholic vs. Protestant, Muslims have Sunny vs. Shyite.
Bible says crazy things against science, Qu'ran says crazy things against science.

So why are you fighting when your religion is roughly the same thing?

Wow, someone has a bit of reading to do.

I hate organized religion as much as the next agnostic, but read up on your facts before you post. You're giving us a horrible name.

Originally posted by Da preacher
The earth is 4 500.000.000 years old according to science.
The bible says it only exists 6000 years.

There are archeological finds older than 6000 years, that's a proof, and how about the Mesozoicum, paleozoicum and that shit.

Yeah, where does the Bible say that? Do some scripture reading of the first two verses of Genesis. The gap Between those to verses could've been millions of years. But thats a whole different discussion all together.

Originally posted by xyz revolution
If he rose again, what did he do after? Or doesn't anyone know yet? It's been 2000 years. What the hell happened?

Read the Bible.

No, don't read the bible. I'll tell you the ending. We all die....... 😂

Originally posted by debbiejo
No, don't read the bible. I'll tell you the ending. We all die....... 😂

Some live...forever.... 😱

Originally posted by debbiejo
No, don't read the bible. I'll tell you the ending. We all die....... 😂

duh! v all WILL die,or won't v?like shaky said "some live 4ever?"

Originally posted by Punker69
Yeah, where does the Bible say that? Do some scripture reading of the first two verses of Genesis. The gap Between those to verses could've been millions of years. But thats a whole different discussion all together.

Though it's off topic to ramble about this, I'd like to point out that strict Creationism is pretty flimsy for a theory. And what separates creation theory from scientific theory is criteria and standards. For those of you who don't know all the criteria for a scientific theory, I suggest you educate yourselves. It's not just any ol' guess. And don't let the term 'theory' baffle you- it's grounded in the best information providable, unlike the idea that the eart is around 6,000 years old but we still have starlight in the sky that is well beyond that in age.

And back on topic, Islam and Christianity aren't the same thing. Even a relative ignoramus on the topic like me can see that.

Originally posted by MC Mike
Muhammed the son of allah? You need to recheck your sources.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Let us see what the Bible has to say about non-believers:

Relativity: THEORY

I do not suppose that you are going to question whether or not gravity exists.

Everything against the bible is classed as evil.
Everything against the quron is classed as evil.

I said 500 years before. So don't look at the bible today because it always gets re-writen. Look at the bible 500 years ago. Slaving the non-believers, wars between beliefrs, immigrating to new lands. Didn't anyone bother to read it all? Or do you christians believe that the world has never changed and every text book is wrong. Do you honestly believe that development over time doesn't exist?