According to Sources Sidious mastered some, if not all forms of saber technique with the exception of Vaapad. However he's still relatively weak in terms of saber combat. Yes he outsmarted Yoda, yet Yoda won in the end regardless. Dooku didn't try to overthrow Palpatine because of fear. He was afraid of Palpatine. From what we know he was superior to Palpatine in saber combat, but Palpatine was beyond him in the force.
Sidious would win. Last I heard Kit Fisto was better then Obi-Wan in saber abilities and look what Sids did to Kit (plus 2 other master and Windu at the same time). Obi-Wan could last a while, seeing as Form III basically means your up for a long fight, but Obi couldn't actually win. I mean Sids was defending and attacking against Yoda quite handily in their duel, I doubt Obi could actually beat Sidious. The only way he lasts is if he just completely defends, in which case its prolly a stalemate.
You know, zephiel7's right. Dooku had to use the Force to get to Kenobi and Sidious really isn't much better than Dooku with a blade. Grievous and vader failed to get past his blade. So did the Clones in the Temple and the Magnaguards. So I think Kenobi takes this, but it lasts a long time cause Sidious'd be attacking him and it'd take a long time for Obi-Wan to get past Sidious's blade, too. Actually, Obi-Wan might get tired before he can and then he'd lose. Either way, though, it'd be close.
How do you know that Dooku couldn't have taken out Obi-wan with just lightsabers? He was after all fighting Obi-wan AND Anakin at the same time. If it had been just Obi-wan, Dooku probably could have taken him down rather quickly even without the force.
Sidious takes this. Obi-wan might last 30 seconds, but no way will he win nor stalemate Sidious.
Right, Dooku is superior to Sidious in force combat, but Sidious is a notch above Obiwan. We could say Obiwan's defense is impenetrable or we could say Obiwan trained Anakin, therefore he knew how to fight, therefore he was able to hold him off. I don't know how Obiwan would do against someone that knows 6 of the 7 fighting styles.
If Dooku was superior to Sidious then why was he the apprentice? I think if he even re motley stepped out of line, Sidious would tear him a new *******. You see the look of fear on his face when he says, "kill him....do it!" I think he feared Sidious more than death from Anakin and thats why he didn't dime him out to Anakin. Sidious kills OB1 quickly. Even Yoda says he's not strong enough to fight Sidous.
Palpatine would destroy Obi Won. In my opinion he is a better duelist then Dooku who could easily outduel Kenobi with a saber. I base my opinion primarily on the fact that he was able to dispose of three great jedi masters in less than 10 seconds, he was able to deal with Yoda better then Dooku was (and I'm talking about the duel in the beginning of their battle) and was able to give Mace Windu (who is a saber god) a bit of trouble.
Originally posted by tdtd
Right, Dooku is superior to Sidious in force combat, but Sidious is a notch above Obiwan. We could say Obiwan's defense is impenetrable or we could say Obiwan trained Anakin, therefore he knew how to fight, therefore he was able to hold him off. I don't know how Obiwan would do against someone that knows 6 of the 7 fighting styles.
yousaid Dooku was superior to Sidious in force combat.
Originally posted by tdtd
Because Dooku feared Sidious that's why. And Sidious would have destroyed Dooku because he was superior to Dooku in Force abilities. That's like asking why Obiwan was the apprentice when he was a better duelist than his master Qui Gon.
but now you said that palps is superior force abilities. So why if someone is superior in force abilities, would they not be superior in force combat? Im not trying to be argumenative, sincerely, but explain that to me. And why, like I said, if dooku was superior to Sidious in ANYTHING, would he fear him? Isnt it the nature of the darkside that if you feel that youre better than someone, that you would try to take their position?