Prove creationism...I'll shut up!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I disagree. You must not know many scientists.

I know of none! I merely read their books.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Walk you through it?

Yes, is such a charge ridiculous to you?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What are you asking me?

To present your case -- present evidence!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have one problem with the idea of creation, and that is the idea is too simple and finite. The question of creation leads to silly questions like "what came before?", and "why?.

Such is the nature of scientific "inquiry." That bothers you?!!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The book Flatland by Edwin A. Abbott sits on my desk in a prominent location. It was the start of my personal journey. Have you read it?

No.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If you took flatland and curved into a ball, and then expand this ball, the flatlanders would be surprised to see new land come from nothingness.

With all due respect, so what! Where did the "flatland" come from? And what caused the flatland to "curve into a ball and then expand"? And who in the world are the "flatlanders"?! Explain!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You see, the big bang was a bubble in a ten dimensional universe.

Okay... provide an explanation -- evidence! Talk to me, please. Attach an explanation with your statements. Again, I'm not trying to sharp shoot you. You simply must explain your position. This goes without saying!

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There was no creation, just an expanding bubble in the multiverse.

Where did the "expanding bubble" come from? Brother... again, I'm not trying to sharp shoot you. I would love to engage in debate/conversation with you. I'd like to understand your views; but with statements like these, I simply cannot. Your not communicating yourself. Communicate, already!

flat land is just about higher dimensions and point of reference and understanding..

what some may call a god could just be a trans dimensional being from another plane of existence.. duh

Shaky?

Originally posted by ushomefree
I know of none! I merely read their books.

They are people just like you and I.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Yes, is such a charge ridiculous to you?

No, but I don’t know what the “it” is that you are asking me to walk you through.

Originally posted by ushomefree
To present your case -- present evidence!

Is evidence really any value to you?

Something that cannot be know is unknowable, and cannot be written down, talked about or proved.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Such is the nature of scientific "inquiry." That bothers you?!!

I wasn’t asking a question. I was listing some of the silly questions that get asked about something that only exists in our minds.

Originally posted by ushomefree
No.

Then why did you post Dr. Quantum: Flatland

Originally posted by ushomefree
With all due respect, so what! Where did the "flatland" come from? And what caused the flatland to "curve into a ball and then expand"? And who in the world are the "flatlanders"?! Explain!

Flatland is just a model. A way to explain something difficult to understand. I curved it. You should read the book.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Okay... provide an explanation -- evidence! Talk to me, please. Attach an explanation with your statements. Again, I'm not trying to sharp shoot you. You simply must explain your position. This goes without saying!

I was explaining why there was no beginning by giving you an example.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Where did the "expanding bubble" come from? Brother... again, I'm not trying to sharp shoot you. I would love to engage in debate/conversation with you. I'd like to understand your views; but with statements like these, I simply cannot. Your not communicating yourself. Communicate, already!

Another silly question. The expanding bubble came from my post. Try to keep in mind what is real and what is not. I’m not a teacher, and I have a very abstract mind. Maybe you should ask me questions.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Shaky?

Yes?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes?

are you god?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
are you god?

Yes, no, maybe.

I'm part of God, does that count? 😄

are you a physical manifestation of the divine seeking to undestand oneself?

or are you like Mr. mxy simply from another plane all together separate from this reality?

oh and your answer does count i have similar view as well: yes,no maybe. 😛

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
are you a physical manifestation of the divine seeking to undestand oneself?

or are you like Mr. mxy simply from another plane all together separate from this reality?

No & no. Why would a divine entity need to understand anything?

Let's get back to your original statement:

Do you believe that "nature is the creator"?

Yes or No?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No & no. Why would a divine entity need to understand anything?

who said anything about an entity.. i simply said divine an ethereal sense of oneness.. 😎

Originally posted by ushomefree
Let's get back to your original statement:

Do you believe that "nature is the creator"?

Yes or No?

It is interesting and reveling about your own point of view that you would put the word "the" in that quote. If you look back, you will see I did not use the word "the". "Nature is a creator" Now that has a totally different meaning.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
who said anything about an entity.. i simply said divine an ethereal sense of oneness.. 😎

I'm sorry, I forgot to light a candle. 😂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It is interesting and reveling about your own point of view that you would put the word "the" in that quote. If you look back, you will see I did not use the word "the". "Nature is a creator" Now that has a totally different meaning.

No need to be ridiculous, you know what l meant Mr. Smarty-pants, ha ha!

For the record, to include all members of the KMC, you, "Shakyamunison" stated, "nature is [size=6]'a' creator.[/size]"

Now... can we skip all the nonsense and begin sharing views for discussion?

Originally posted by ushomefree
No need to be ridiculous, you know what l meant Mr. Smarty-pants, ha ha!

For the record, to include all members of the KMC, you, "Shakyamunison" stated, "[b]nature is [size=6]'a' creator.[/size]"

Now... can we skip all the nonsense and begin sharing views for discussion? [/B]

Sure.

Begin please dear Sir....

Originally posted by ushomefree
Begin please dear Sir....

I would prefer that you lead.

Okay... you made the statement that, "nature is a creator." Do you believe that to be true? If so, please provide an explanation.

this hilarious... in todays discussion we will be debating creationism we will start as soon as the kmc members begin explaining their side.. hmm this may take a while we can begin now..

why is creationism so important?

explain creationism to ppl so they may understand your position..

age of earth
evolution
religion

we need a bases of what you consider creationism in order to begin the topic..

we will standby and observe..

giving thumbs up or down or claps whatever the case may be.

Shaky made a statement, and I asked him to defend it. Presenting my views beforehand are unwarranted.