Prove creationism...I'll shut up!

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

[W]hat makes creationism more likely then evolution?

Simply said, logic! Hence the reason man is able to detect a Creator (without study). Man is (and was) created in God's image -- mind, body and soul. Otherwise, man is forced to concede: 1) nothing produces everything, 2) non-life produces life, 3) randomness produces fine-tuning, 4) chaos produces information, 4) Unconsciousness produces consciousness and 5) Non-reason produces reason.

If explanation is needed, please ask. Most people argue over point #4. The point is, we humans, being created in the image of God, are "self-aware" -- having soul! We are not robots, and we value ourselves, not to mention other things in life. A computer will never find another computer sexually attractive, ha ha! Understand the point?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

[W]hat religion is more accurate then another?

In my opinion, either one religion is right or all are false. Square circles do not exist. If you genuinely seek the truth about any given religion, study it objectively. (Refrain from emotion and/or self-imposed philosophy.) Hint: the mono-theistic religions carry the most weight. No need to worship rocks and ocean gods.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

[W]hy cant we believe or trust world wide independent studies of science that overlap one another[?]

Facts do not contradict themselves. Dig deeper, and you'll learn that someone is being dishonest.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow

[C]an science be that inept that they can get the atom bomb right or create televisions and satellites, but we cant trust them at all when it comes to biology?

Absolutely not! The Intelligent Design (ID) and Evolution debate, for instance, has diddly-squat to do with lack of evidence. The evidence supporting ID is solid, but so many reject it simply because it carries "philosophical/religious implications." Einstein was greeted with the same enthusiasm when proposing General Relativity! It was a huge discovery, and it flipped modern science upside-down. ID has had the same impact.

Originally posted by ushomefree
Einstein was greeted with the same enthusiasm when proposing General Relativity! It was a huge discovery, and it flipped modern science upside-down. ID has had the same impact.

You're joking, right? What pray tell, does ID contribute to science?

C'mon man... let's skip the theatrics and get to the point! Of course, I was not joking. What's on your mind, AngryManatee?

Originally posted by ushomefree
A computer will never find another computer sexually attractive,

Originally posted by ushomefree
Simply said, logic! Hence the reason man is able to detect a Creator (without study). Man is (and was) created in God's image -- mind, body and soul. Otherwise, man is forced to concede: 1) nothing produces everything, 2) non-life produces life, 3) randomness produces fine-tuning, 4) chaos produces information, 4) Unconsciousness produces consciousness and 5) Non-reason produces reason.

If explanation is needed, please ask. Most people argue over point #4. The point is, we humans, being created in the image of God, are "self-aware" -- having soul! We are not robots, and we value ourselves, not to mention other things in life. A computer will never find another computer sexually attractive, ha ha! Understand the point?

In my opinion, either one religion is right or all are false. Square circles do not exist. If you genuinely seek the truth about any given religion, study it objectively. (Refrain from emotion and/or self-imposed philosophy.) Hint: the mono-theistic religions carry the most weight. No need to worship rocks and ocean gods.

Facts do not contradict themselves. Dig deeper, and you'll learn that someone is being dishonest.

Absolutely not! The Intelligent Design (ID) and Evolution debate, for instance, has diddly-squat to do with lack of evidence. The evidence supporting ID is solid, but so many reject it simply because it carries "philosophical/religious implications." Einstein was greeted with the same enthusiasm when proposing General Relativity! It was a huge discovery, and it flipped modern science upside-down. ID has had the same impact.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
??????????

If you cram your fingers into your ears, close your eyes, and scream "The evidence supporting ID is solid" over and over, you will begin to understand were ushomefree is coming from. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

If you cram your fingers into your ears, close your eyes, and scream "The evidence supporting ID is solid" over and over, you will begin to understand were ushomefree is coming from. 😉

Very intelligent. You obviously have strong conviction in your opinions, and their must be a reason why. Would you like to debate?

Originally posted by ushomefree
Very intelligent. You obviously have strong conviction in your opinions, and their must be a reason why. Would you like to debate?

Sure! And why not? It's a simple debate. What's the big deal??

Originally posted by ushomefree
Sure! And why not? It's a simple debate. What's the big deal??

Originally posted by ushomefree
Very intelligent. You obviously have strong conviction in your opinions, and their must be a reason why. Would you like to debate?

What?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What?

He wants a one on one debate about evolution and creationism. I would have done it but it turns out that I'm really good at falling for word-traps and would get torn apart, even if I am marginally informed. So I won't do it. This really seems like the wrong venue for such a discussion anyway; Forums are not designed for a private discussion.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
He wants a one on one debate about evolution and creationism. I would have done it but it turns out that I'm really good at falling for word-traps and would get torn apart, even if I am marginally informed. So I won't do it. This really seems like the wrong venue for such a discussion anyway; Forums are not designed for a private discussion.

That last time we did that, he got mad at me and then left the forum. So, I don't want to waist my time. 😉

Originally posted by ushomefree
Sure! And why not? It's a simple debate. What's the big deal??

What's wrong with a public debate? Isn't that what forums are for?

Originally posted by lord xyz
Prove to me that creationism is the true origin of life without mentioning these:

[list]
[*]god
[*]bible
[*]jesus
[*]religion
[*]evolution
[*]anything to do with the above

[/list]

It doesn't matter whether you can prove it or not, if it makes people happy to believe this stuff, don't ruin their fun if they're not hurting anyone. That's one thing I hate about atheists, they're such a bunch of pessimists.

Originally posted by UKR
It doesn't matter whether you can prove it or not, if it makes people happy to believe this stuff, don't ruin their fun if they're not hurting anyone. That's one thing I hate about atheists, they're such a bunch of pessimists.

Originally posted by UKR
It doesn't matter whether you can prove it or not, if it makes people happy to believe this stuff, don't ruin their fun if they're not hurting anyone. That's one thing I hate about atheists, they're such a bunch of pessimists.

However, teaching children that humans lived with dinosaurs is harmful because it sets us back as a civilization.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, teaching children that humans lived with dinosaurs is harmful because it sets us back as a civilization.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Saying that you are not a good person because you don't believe in God, saying that you are not a citizen of the US because you don't believe in God, a person can't marry a person of the same sex because God has deemed it so and I could keep going on if you would like. While Atheist are also not without their faults both extremes on each side should just chill out.

Man you got issues. 😆 😛

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Man you got issues. 😆 😛