Dark Side Exile versus Dooku

Ok since we don't know enough about the LS Exile's abilities, I have created a new thread with the DS Exile.

DS Exile we have more substanial proof for. He defeat Kavar, Vrook, and Zez Kai El in some form of duel. Not only that, but he learned some coveted force forms/lightsaber dueling forms while in the fight. This has been one of the few times where an individual has proven to be skilled enough to pull this off.

Add in the fact that he defeated Nihilus, who was a formidable duelist, and also Sion who was probably a better duelist possessing great strength. Finally, he defeated Traya in the Sith tradition of Master versus apprentice.

He beat Nihilus? He struggled to beat a Nihilus who had been starved of his "food" and had been further weakened by Nihilus draning him. Did you miss the part where Visas cries "He is too strong!"?

And Sion? The Exile had to convince him to die.

And Traya? If you think the Traya wanted the Exile dead then you must be stupid. If Traya wanted him dead, he would have died as soon as he entered the Trayus Core...

Right of course, she battled him without the intention of killing him. You have no proof that she did not put her all. Cough up a resource and then we can talk. The very nature of the Exile, that he is a wound in the force could very well have been the reason why InstaKILL does not have any effect. See we can speculate why Kreia couldn't use her technique, or deal with the bare bone facts, Exile was stronger hence he won. Otherwise as they say, prove up or shut up 😠 🙂

The fight with Nihilus, the Exile won because of his nature, however it did degenerate into a lightsaber duel, because we see Nihilus igniting his lightsaber.

The Exile was clearly the better saber duelist between himself and Sion. He defeated Sion, its just Sion kept regenerating. At the very least the Exile took down Sion once. We see this because the first conversation happens when Sion heals himself.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Right of course, she battled him without the intention of killing him. You have no proof that she did not put her all.. Cough up a resource and then we can talk. Otherwise as they say, prove up or shut up 😠 🙂

The force bond...

If one of them dies, they both die, unless for some reason they block the effect. Like we know Kreia could do, however she then completely refuses to do so when the Exile is about to kill her. Why? Obviously because she wanted him to stay alive, she did not want to fight him, she did not want him to die. She just felt she had to fight him, but not to kill him. Besides just a few days earlier she cassually knocks him to the ground, he can't grow that much in such a short time.

Originally posted by Fishy
The force bond...

If one of them dies, they both die, unless for some reason they block the effect. Like we know Kreia could do, however she then completely refuses to do so when the Exile is about to kill her. Why? Obviously because she wanted him to stay alive, she did not want to fight him, she did not want him to die. She just felt she had to fight him, but not to kill him. Besides just a few days earlier she cassually knocks him to the ground, he can't grow that much in such a short time.

If I am correct, Bastila and Revan also had a force bond. The fact that Malak was blasting Bastila with lightning, didn't seem to have any real effect on Revan. Why would she fight him without the intention of killing him? I can't believe that Traya was not putting her all into the fight, otherwise she would just knock him out and send him on his way.

Traya knocking Exile was a surprise attack that the Exile would hardly be able to fathom. He was not prepared for it. Same with Vader tossing the Emperor down a cliff.

Originally posted by zephiel7
If I am correct, Bastila and Revan also had a force bond. The fact that Malak was blasting Bastila with lightning, didn't seem to have any real effect on Revan. Why would she fight him without the intention of killing him? I can't believe that Traya was not putting her all into the fight, otherwise she would just knock him out and send him on his way.

Traya knocking Exile was a surprise attack that the Exile would hardly be able to fathom. He was not prepared for it. Same with Vader tossing the Emperor down a cliff.

The Bond between Bastila and Revan was like a bond between Master and apprentice, it does not even in the slightest compare to the bond that the Exile had with people, if he turned to the Dark Side his friends turned with him, if he stayed lights his friends stayed light. Kreia was the only one that was able to control the power of the bonds by staying what she was no matter what the Exile was.

Still she was able to kill three powerful Jedi Masters and push the exile down in a few seconds without any problems, she could have killed the Exile half a dozen times without problems and it even says on the Kotor II website that she would gladly sacrifise herself for him.

Her entire time with him was for just one reason to make him come full circle again, something that he could only have done if Kreia was dead. Besides she never uses one of her uber techniques against him, doesn't destroy the terrain when he comes towards her. She doesn't do anything to make it harder for him. Hell even Sion fighting the Exile is against her orders. She wanted the Exile to kill her, to make him come full ciricle.