she has complete control over FORCE exertion and she has used this to block direct shots from an almost full powered galactus MANY times before. she can also create forcefields to stop telepathy, telekenesis, power cosmic etc, n she once blasted a hole through galactus's chest too along with the fact that she KILLED a celestial by destroying his brain in fair combat. she is probably the most powerful femal character out there other than phoenix and wanda. surfer can neither survive nor dish out as much as galactus or the celestials which is why its quite safe to say that invisible woman owns him.
Originally posted by tdawg14
I'll give you Strange but Surfer would take 7/10 from Thor. Warrior Madness Thor beat SS but regular Thor does not fare well. Juggs can't be harmed by SS but Juggs will never be able to hurt SS either. Superman has no shot against SS. The sooner you DC fanboys realize this, the better.
Superman has no shot?
Only fanboys say things in exaggeration like you.
If warrior madness thor could kick ss butt then of course superman can.
He stronger, faster, more durable, than wm thor. Look at the way wm thor did it. Superman can easily do that and more. Come on! Superman is also far more durable as well. It is clear that you are the fanboy. And that you are using reverse psychology on us logic users.
By the way, I love SS. I wish I were him over superman any day.
But what you are saying is crazy.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
BULLSHIT, i know very well that surfer can own superman. now as far as the list goes, its almost endless but here are a few to ENLIGHTEN UR DULL MINDTHOR
SENTRY
PHOTON{GENIS}
MAELSTROM
STRANGE
FRANKLIN RICHARDS
NATE GREY
CABLE
XAVIER{WITH NO RESTRAINTS}
MEPHISTO
INVISIBLE WOMAN
ALPHA THE ULTIMATE MUTANT
BLACK BOLT
SCARLET WITCH
QUASAR
OMEGA LEVEL MUTANTS{KID OMEGA, JEAN, ELIXIR, ICEMAN ETC}
DRACULA{APPARENTLY}
PROTEUS
LEGION
STRYFE
RICK JONES WITH DESTINY FORCE
XMAN{xavier, hulk and reed combined}
{and dont even get me started on the earthen gods/skyfathers rune king thor, odin, shiva, zeus, gaia, atum the god eater, SET, anubis etc}there is that a long enough list for ya?
u know its like the people in kmc have formed an undeclared mafia of fanboys, they gang up on people that claim that other can defeat their characters{surfer, thor, phoenix, etc} and ridicule the hell out of the opposition and any newbie that comes and hasnt read any comics thinks that the characters with the large fanbase actually DESERVE the respect theyr getting because of their power and they join in, creating this society with a wierd culture. when the fact is that even in the comics surfer, thor etc arent the only ones that are overrated and MANY others have just as many high end feats as them.
again BULLSHIT. thor has taken out surfer MANY times, and definately more times than surfer has scored a win on thor. thor even made the poor guy BLEED. the thing is that those two have almost exact same power levels, only difference is that surfer has cosmic power which thor CAN protect against and thor has mystic powers which surfer CANT protect against. hence thor wins, otherwise theyr equal, with thor being stronger but less flexible in hsi use of the powers but surfer being weaker but much more flexible in his use of power.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
u know its like the people in kmc have formed an undeclared mafia of fanboys, they gang up on people that claim that other can defeat their characters{surfer, thor, phoenix, etc} and ridicule the hell out of the opposition and any newbie that comes and hasnt read any comics thinks that the characters with the large fanbase actually DESERVE the respect theyr getting because of their power and they join in, creating this society with a wierd culture. when the fact is that even in the comics surfer, thor etc arent the only ones that are overrated and MANY others have just as many high end feats as them.
who in this fourm is gangin up on ur, the pupose of this forums is really to debate, just becuase a few people doesnt agree with ur opinion doesnt make me or others wrong. when i wrote "STRANGE, FRANKLIN RICHARDS, MEPHISTO are the only people that jumps out on that list that can take on surfer".. u got madd defensive, and started call me a "fanboy"..wat the hell is wrong with u?? im as as well as u can disagree with wat some ones has to say but dont get all emotional on me buddy, grow up and live with it.
no theyr not. other than that I WASNT TALKIN ABOUT "U" U MORON!!! i havent seen any of that in this thread but i was generally explaining why we HAVE so many people like you who think its completely ridiculous to put up surfer against invisible woman when in actually if looked at neutrally, its NOT. take it this way. just how many surfer comics have u read, or comics with surfer's appearances and feats. im sure{if not for u then for most of the pro surfer people} that MOST of what u know about surfer's power level u havent read the complete story about and are going on wats been generaliezed on KMC by other people. people who often manipulate and leave out stuff to make surfer the victor and never talk about his lower showings. NOW think about how many feats or comics containing every character on the list of mine, uve actually READ. probably not many. therefore its just the NORMAL oppinion on KMC that surfer can beat every1 that u are following and not the right unbiased one formed by YOURSELF.
huh, im callin people names and throwin a tantrum?! wow i must be REALLY chidish cause i cant find THOSE anywhere in my post{if u can please enlighten me} i only called u a moron cause YOU were actin like a child thinkin i was specifically targetting u with the last statement instead of the whole forum in general.
Anyway DD owns them all. He simply cannot be harm by any of them.
No cosmic energy in the universe could put a scratch on him. He is far too aggressive and powerful to not take each guy out in minutes. His bony protrusions went straight threw Superman like paper. I don't know about you but this is suppose to be freaken impossible. He killed thousands of Gogs (Each Gog can own Superman). He is also nearly absolutely indestructible (only the end of time can harm him).
By the way, there is proof to everything I'm saying.
Also, people must remember that DD now evolves instantaneously while in battle. Adapting to whatever circumstance that is getting the best of him (That is if anything can get the best of him). He doesn't have to wait until he dies (If he can ever die again of course).